Honda changed my mind

SHERIFF

SHERIFF

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I have always been an American auto buyer. With where things are manufactured and built now, is there really any such thing as an "American" auto any longer? Anyhow, my daughter wanted a Honda for gas mileage, so I bought her one. It has sold me on the so called "foreign car market". The features and options on the car are amazing for the price. It's a new (not used) 2011 LX-S model, I think the S means "sport model", dunno? Plus, it was the only Civic you could get the black interior in supposedly.

It's not my pitcher of beer, but it's OK for a 17 year old daughter I guess.

Since it's legally registered in my name, and I do also drive it occasionally, my daughter can use my window tint exemption on it.

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I think the key to any car, is to love it. If she loves the car she is driving, than it's a great car. My oldest Niece has the same car and she loves it, so as with everything, to each their own. Congrats on the purchase :beer:
 
SHERIFF said:
I have always been an American auto buyer. With where things are manufactured and built now, is there really any such thing as an "American" auto any longer?
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There may not be an "American" auto any more, but where to the profits go?

To each his own, but I'd rather see the profits stay in the U.S.A!
 
Haggis said:
Why do all the houses in your neighborhood look the same?
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The same builder built them all. :)

It's a well established neighborhood in the city, in a good section of town, and relatively crime free for the most part. I had to live in the city for which I worked for as a deputy sheriff, and I simply haven't moved since.

They're all two story brick homes. I like the low maintenance of brick. And I finished off the lower level. Bedroom, living room, kitchen and bathroom downstairs.

Whenever I did consider purchasing a new home, all there was to choose from around here were homes with wood siding and a small portion of brick veneer if any.

I just put a new $7,800 HVAC system in, and a new roof on both the house and the 4 car garage in the back yard. I will probably stay here forever now. :eek:
 
fastblackmerc said:
There may not be an "American" auto any more, but where do the profits go?

To each his own, but I'd rather see the profits stay in the U.S.A!
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Well, at least this purchase did pay the salaries of the employees
at the East Liberty, Ohio plant where they are produced.
 
Thats why its so hard to define an american car.
The profits go back to the mother land but the employees get jobs which has a trickle down effect.

Which one is better, I don't know.
 
Everytime I attempt to purchase American (fishing rods, clothes, toys, etc.) I look at the label and see "Made in China" everywhere even on American Flag Pins... WTF! No wonder we are where we are. Even my wife's old company sold out to operators overseas and put many families on the unemployment list wondering where the next paycheck is gonna come from. I know what you mean, but with cars especially, I personally won't.
 
I would gladly drive a Civic Si as my daily if it meant allowing the MM to retire to weekender status (and even if it didn't).


Just saying...
 
Yeah, for sure, but the Si only comes in a manual transmission version.

I didn't want my daughter in a manual trans. :eek:
 
Sorry you bought that. Ford Fusion, Fiesta , or Focus will match it in mileage.

I treat foreign car drivers as second class citizens, i dont let them in traffic or help them when they are stranded, or need directions.
 
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You're are/were in Law enforcement and you bought the most stolen brand of vehicle there is? You like paying high insurance rates and not knowing if your daughter is going to come out and not find here car, or find it sitting there w/o it's seats and wheels? Sure it has Honda's version of PATS but all the professional thieves know the back door to that.
 
jstevens said:
Thats why its so hard to define an american car.
The profits go back to the mother land but the employees get jobs which has a trickle down effect.

Which one is better, I don't know.
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This is one of the reasons I've softened my stance toward "built in America" by foreign-owned companies. We have several of these in the metro GSP area (BMW and Michelin). Not only do they supply jobs directly for their employees, but also indirectly. There are numerous vendors and contractors in the surrounding area that support the two companies, and they provide a substantial number of jobs for folks as well. Were it not for BMW and Michelin, these suppliers would either not be in business, or they certainly would not be located here.

Look at it this way: Foreign companies that invest in American production facilities are providing jobs, paying taxes, and generally enhancing the quality of life for the communites in which they are located.

No two ways around it, we're part of a global economy, and rather than hunker down and go it alone, we need to make the US a more desirable place to do business; both for American-owned firms as well as foreign-owned ones that wish to conduct business in our country. Unfortunately, that means less, rather than more, government intervention, which is not the direction we're currently heading.
 
Cool little car. My wife has an Accord ... and she loves it. Since she does, I am happy. If my commute was longer, i would consider one. Why? My wife's last accord had 250K on it, original clutch and the only unexpected maintenance was the oil pan gasket was seeping and the master cylinder leaked.

It was a quieter ride inside then her current 06 Accord ... that is one complaint.
 
EMAS said:
You're are/were in Law enforcement and you bought the most stolen brand of vehicle there is?
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I had to take a serious look at your post. I researched it quite extensively and can't
come up with anything to support that newer model Civics are being stolen at an alarming rate.

Every link I researched on Google say that an older model Civic tops the list.

http://autos.aol.com/article/most-stolen-cars-2009/

For 2009, the most stolen vehicles* in the nation were:

1. 1994 Honda Accord
2. 1995 Honda Civic
3. 1991 Toyota Camry
4. 1997 Ford F-150 Pickup
5. 2004 Dodge Ram Pickup
6. 2000 Dodge Caravan
7. 1994 Chevrolet Pickup (Full Size)
8. 1994 Acura Integra
9. 2002 Ford Explorer
10. 2009 Toyota Corolla
 
He meant those are the ones HE steals the most :D


SHERIFF said:
I had to take a serious look at your post. I researched it quite extensively and can't
come up with anything to support that newer model Civics are being stolen at an alarming rate.

Every link I researched on Google say that an older model Civic tops the list.

http://autos.aol.com/article/most-stolen-cars-2009/

For 2009, the most stolen vehicles* in the nation were:

1. 1994 Honda Accord
2. 1995 Honda Civic
3. 1991 Toyota Camry
4. 1997 Ford F-150 Pickup
5. 2004 Dodge Ram Pickup
6. 2000 Dodge Caravan
7. 1994 Chevrolet Pickup (Full Size)
8. 1994 Acura Integra
9. 2002 Ford Explorer
10. 2009 Toyota Corolla
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SHERIFF said:
With where things are manufactured and built now, is there really any such thing as an "American" auto any longer?
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fastblackmerc said:
There may not be an "American" auto any more, but where to the profits go?

To each his own, but I'd rather see the profits stay in the U.S.A!
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jstevens said:
Thats why its so hard to define an american car.
The profits go back to the mother land but the employees get jobs which has a trickle down effect.

Which one is better, I don't know.
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SC Cheesehead said:
This is one of the reasons I've softened my stance toward "built in America" by foreign-owned companies. We have several of these in the metro GSP area (BMW and Michelin). Not only do they supply jobs directly for their employees, but also indirectly. There are numerous vendors and contractors in the surrounding area that support the two companies, and they provide a substantial number of jobs for folks as well. Were it not for BMW and Michelin, these suppliers would either not be in business, or they certainly would not be located here.

Look at it this way: Foreign companies that invest in American production facilities are providing jobs, paying taxes, and generally enhancing the quality of life for the communites in which they are located.

No two ways around it, we're part of a global economy, and rather than hunker down and go it alone, we need to make the US a more desirable place to do business; both for American-owned firms as well as foreign-owned ones that wish to conduct business in our country. Unfortunately, that means less, rather than more, government intervention, which is not the direction we're currently heading.
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Supporting the factories and their suppliers kind of clouds the issue up. The profits go to the parent company. If the American companies don't have adequate profits to fund their pension plans, they will go belly-up. Which companies support more American jobs and second-tier suppliers, the American ones or the foreign ones?

My step-son has a Honda, I helped him work on it a couple of weeks ago. I decided they are Japan's revenge for Hiroshima. What a PITA to make a minor repair like changing a broken lug bolt stud...
 
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