2011 Mustang Frustrations

BizTerp

BizTerp

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So, I've been posting on Allfordmustangs.com about the various issues I've had with my 2011 Mustang GT. I'm just kind of venting here but looking for input on one particular issues that is very troubling to me and I'm sick of the "mine doesn't do it, its your fault" fanboy responses on the Mustang forum. I really enjoy the group of MM owners we have here and feel like this is one of the best auto forums I've been a part of, so I just want to blow of some steam to a respected audience.

Anyhow, the first issue I've had with the '11 GT is the MT82 1-2, 2-3 synchro grinding issue that many of you have probably heard of. No one (including Ford) seems to know what's going on there. I'm confident though that there are enough open cases out there that it will be eventually sorted out.

The second issue I discovered yesterday that has me in a twist is that I went to check my oil (car only has 3.5K total miles on it) and to my horror, the dipstick was almost completely dry. I had previously checked the oil at 1K and 2K miles without issue. I borrowed my wife's car this morning to run out to grab a few quarts of oil. It took 4 quarts of oil to return the oil level to the mid mark on the dip stick! The engine holds a total of 6 quarts. I'm freaking out because I have no idea if my engine has been damaged and what could be causing this level of consumption. I worked on a 4-stroke engine development program at work and fully understand that oil can only escape the crank case though one of three ways; 1) the PCV breather, 2) rings (cylinder blow-by), 3) leak in crankcase or oilpan. There's no oil to be found on the garage or driveway, so that leaves option 1 or 2. I'm taking it to the dealer next week to have it looked at. I'm definitely pretty stressed.

Derek
 
Derek, I absolutely feel for you...it's very disheartening when something you spent that much money on lets you down. I do have to be honest and say that it's fairly widely known that a brand-new engine *can* use more oil until it's broken in, but your experience does seem out of line; if it used no oil at 1k and at 2k, why would it suddenly use 4 quarts at 3k? I don't have an answer other than there may be some faulty assembly...like all the ring gaps are lined up...that didn't manifest until the motor began to wear in. Dunno...I hope the dealer can find something obvious.
 
Did you take a sample of the remaining oil, before refilling with fresh?

Just wondering if that sample could tell you something if you could get it tested......

Good luck with your investigation. I would be interested to learn what you find out.
 
BizTerp said:
So, I've been posting on Allfordmustangs.com about the various issues I've had with my 2011 Mustang GT. I'm just kind of venting here but looking for input on one particular issues that is very troubling to me and I'm sick of the "mine doesn't do it, its your fault" fanboy responses on the Mustang forum. I really enjoy the group of MM owners we have here and feel like this is one of the best auto forums I've been a part of, so I just want to blow of some steam to a respected audience.

Anyhow, the first issue I've had with the '11 GT is the MT82 1-2, 2-3 synchro grinding issue that many of you have probably heard of. No one (including Ford) seems to know what's going on there. I'm confident though that there are enough open cases out there that it will be eventually sorted out.

The second issue I discovered yesterday that has me in a twist is that I went to check my oil (car only has 3.5K total miles on it) and to my horror, the dipstick was almost completely dry. I had previously checked the oil at 1K and 2K miles without issue. I borrowed my wife's car this morning to run out to grab a few quarts of oil. It took 4 quarts of oil to return the oil level to the mid mark on the dip stick! The engine holds a total of 6 quarts. I'm freaking out because I have no idea if my engine has been damaged and what could be causing this level of consumption. I worked on a 4-stroke engine development program at work and fully understand that oil can only escape the crank case though one of three ways; 1) the PCV breather, 2) rings (cylinder blow-by), 3) leak in crankcase or oilpan. There's no oil to be found on the garage or driveway, so that leaves option 1 or 2. I'm taking it to the dealer next week to have it looked at. I'm definitely pretty stressed.

Derek
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My friend jut picked up a 11 GT and he has the 1-2 grind as well. He said there was a member on a mustang forum that pulled the trans out of the car in a attempt to fix th problem. What he found was that the shifter is not aligned in the trans and thats why it seems to lock the shifter out of the gate. His fix was to shim it on one side and that aligned the shifter and fixed the issue. Ill try to get a link to the thread. He also has a slight cam cover leak already coming from under the plug cover. Other then that its been fine.
 
Blackened300a said:
My friend jut picked up a 11 GT and he has the 1-2 grind as well. He said there was a member on a mustang forum that pulled the trans out of the car in a attempt to fix th problem. What he found was that the shifter is not aligned in the trans and thats why it seems to lock the shifter out of the gate. His fix was to shim it on one side and that aligned the shifter and fixed the issue. Ill try to get a link to the thread. He also has a slight cam cover leak already coming from under the plug cover. Other then that its been fine.
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I did see that post, thanks for mentioning it. Pretty impressive effort in his part. Due to the srtong corredlation to temperature, I'm a little skeptical on the fix. Anyhow, thanks or all of the empathy and helpful suggestions. I'll keep you guys posted. The car is amazing, I just hope I can enjoy it without all the headaches. I think I might try some of the suggested Mustang forums.

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Wow, that is horrible luck you your part. I would definitely take it back to the Ford dealer and see what they can do to help you out. At the very least, I would think that getting this documented would help with a warranty claim if you needed one later on.
 
that sucks man. Ive read about this issue and others on SVTP 2011+ section. Must be disappointing. Definitely take it to the dealer and get everything documented. Also try calling the customer service hotline and tell them about this problem. The amount of people complaining about this problem will force them to come up with a solution.
 
Blackened300a said:
My friend jut picked up a 11 GT and he has the 1-2 grind as well. He said there was a member on a mustang forum that pulled the trans out of the car in a attempt to fix th problem. What he found was that the shifter is not aligned in the trans and thats why it seems to lock the shifter out of the gate. His fix was to shim it on one side and that aligned the shifter and fixed the issue. Ill try to get a link to the thread. He also has a slight cam cover leak already coming from under the plug cover. Other then that its been fine.
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Jerry's issue is actually 2-3 shift at high RPM. Derek you may also want to check out Stangnet.com and Mustangforums.com. There has been some talk of a the clutch pedal being an issue with shifting also but definately try to find that thread with the shifter plate that Paul wrote about.
 
Wow!
Hard to believe that it has 'eaten' that much oil in such a short amount of time/mileage.

Have you looked underneath to see if there is any obvious signs of oil leakage?

Maybe pull the plugs to do a spark plug check and a compression check.
 
GAMike said:
Did you take a sample of the remaining oil, before refilling with fresh?

Just wondering if that sample could tell you something if you could get it tested......

Good luck with your investigation. I would be interested to learn what you find out.
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I have some on a paper towel that I used to wipe the dip stick. I'm concerned by how dark it is. Thanks for the good suggestion and well wishes.
 
Joe Walsh said:
Wow!
Hard to believe that it has 'eaten' that much oil in such a short amount of time/mileage.

Have you looked underneath to see if there is any obvious signs of oil leakage?

Maybe pull the plugs to do a spark plug check and a compression check.
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Definitely no oil leakage below the vehicle (I park it in the same spot at my house every day). Great suggestion- I'm certainly going to have the dealer complete a compression test. I hope that it is something simple like a faulty PCV. Still concerned about potential damage though. Errgh.
 
SpartaPerformance said:
Jerry's issue is actually 2-3 shift at high RPM. Derek you may also want to check out Stangnet.com and Mustangforums.com. There has been some talk of a the clutch pedal being an issue with shifting also but definately try to find that thread with the shifter plate that Paul wrote about.
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I'll take a look this weekend. Thanks for pointing me to some good sources of info. on the trans issue. My dealer bled the clutch and inspected its operation and couldn't find any issues. The have not looked at the shifter plate though. I'll discuss with them when I take it in for the oil issue. I can't believe I'm even having to deal with this on a $37K car.
 
Vortex said:
If its not smoking or leaking Ill bet you are checking your oil level wrong.
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Eh? Not a greenhorn here, but thanks for the thoughts. :)

I'm taking it to the dealer tomorrow to have them start looking into it. I'll keep you guys updated.
 
Do ALL the new Mustangs like your model do it or just a few? If only a few do it, then THAT is your trump card with Ford to get it corrected or get a replacement car. Of course, no car should exhibit this.
 
May sound obvious but did you ck to make sure the dip stick tube is positioned correctly. It seems odd that 4qts of oil will get burned in 1000 miles
 
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