Chirp when a/c compressor cycles on?
- Thread starter junehhan
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I understand what you are saying, but as a general rule, I will not throw money towards a department that doesn't care about my needs. I've got a great local SVT Ford dealer right by my house, and i'll see if they can do warranty work on Mercury products. Our family combined has bought a few cars from them, and I have bought a lot of parts from them as well, although I havn't let them do any service on my cars. I believe my parents had them do a transmission rebuild on their Taurus a while ago as well. My tires are due to get balanced since they have started shaking at highway speeds, so maybe i'll throw them some maintenance stuff and then approach them about this chirping when the compressor cycles on. If that service tech was hinting that to me, then i'm sure as hell not going to spend any money there. They have to prove to me first that they are trustworthy and willing to help satisfy me first.
BillyGman
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I understand your frustration. I don't blame you for wanting to try another dealer. I think that you should. Just keep in mind what I said, since you might run into the same thing at other dealers. I have. But ofcourse you won't know unless you try. The mechanic who worked on my maraudern didn't even hint around about it, he came right out and told me what I've previously stated about dealers in this thread. :shake:
BillyGman said:
It is scummy how these dealers operate, but what can we do? They are privately owned, so our choices are limited. I could file a complaint against them with Ford, but that would not be a good idea since I may need them again in the future which would suck if they started holding a grudge against me. Had I known this was how their service department operated, I would have bought my Marauder from another Mercury dealer. What i'm thinking about doing, is buying some of that stuff from Autozone that gives a slippery belt more grip to keep it from slipping and see if that makes a difference. If the chirping goes away, then it's going to be belt or belt tensioner related. If it still exists, then it probably has something to do with the a/c clutch or compressor itself. Sound like a sound plan?
BillyGman
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sounds like a good idea, but I would try another dealer if i were you. I wouldn't take it for granted just yet that things would definately pan out the same way for you at another dealer. Yes, there is a good chance that they will, but you just won't know for certain until you give it a shot. I'm sure it isn't something that you look forward to having to twist their arm. After all, you really shouldn't have to twist their arm at all. But before you go making an effort to cover up the problem, I DO think that you should give it one more try somewhere else. There isn't any reason for you to neccessarily have any loyalty to the dealer where you've purchased the car. When it comes to the service department, they're an entirely different entity. urthermore I really don't think it matters a whole lot to them weather or not you've purchased the car from their dealer or not.
Thanks, as I may try this SVT Ford dealer then. They have an excellent service department, and they really went out of their way to help me on some of the problems I had on my old Cobra. What i'll definately do, is throw some money their way first. Their parts department knows me since i'm always buying stuff, but i'll throw some money into the service department. I know the power windows just failed on my mother's Ford ZX2, and she's been bugging me for a while to take her car somewhere and get it fixed so she can use the window(she's afraid of dealing with repair places). I'm just way too busy, but maybe i'll have them fix this............
BillyGman
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Yeah, that sounds like a real good plan. You might kill two birds w/one stone that way. Infact, I think that you should avoid even mentioning your mother's name, and simply give them your name when you bring her car there. Unless they come right out and ask you about her, there's no reason to mention her name. Right? And that way, you'll have YOUR name on their service record as proof of giving them business, and that's what you want. I think that the majority of dealers' service departments will have a hard line approach to anyone who brings their car in for the first time, IF their first visit is a warantee issue. Unless ofcourse the person in question just purchased their vehicle a couple days ago, or the week before. That would be entirely different.
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The good thing about this dealership, is that they care about the quality of the work they do. I remember a buddy of mine had lots of warrentee trouble with his old Contour back when he bought it the last year it was made. He bought the car at another dealership, but this one took care of every warranty concern he had without question. I just hope they won't be offended when I eventually ask them if they can do some warranty work on a Mercury. This is probably the dealership that I would rate as being the most honest dealership in the Cincinnati area because even their sales department works ethically and honestly.
*sigh*
On the plus side, at least the weather has been so nice lately, i've been running around with my windows down with no need to use the climate control.............
*sigh*
On the plus side, at least the weather has been so nice lately, i've been running around with my windows down with no need to use the climate control.............
Marauderjack
Senior Member
junehhan.....
A simple test that may correct your problem!!
They use shims to set the magnetic clutch gap on the compressor....it should only be a few thousandths......My 2000 CV was about .050" and was not only noisey...it would actually shut down at highway speeds!!!
There is a small bolt in the center of the clutch that holds the clutch plate...remove it and the plate....take out a shim or two and re-install!!! It takes about 5 minutes and may fix you right up!!?? :beer:
Could be that it was set up wrong at the factory?? :banned:
Marauderjack
A simple test that may correct your problem!!
They use shims to set the magnetic clutch gap on the compressor....it should only be a few thousandths......My 2000 CV was about .050" and was not only noisey...it would actually shut down at highway speeds!!!
There is a small bolt in the center of the clutch that holds the clutch plate...remove it and the plate....take out a shim or two and re-install!!! It takes about 5 minutes and may fix you right up!!?? :beer:
Could be that it was set up wrong at the factory?? :banned:
Marauderjack
Marauderjack said:junehhan.....
A simple test that may correct your problem!!
They use shims to set the magnetic clutch gap on the compressor....it should only be a few thousandths......My 2000 CV was about .050" and was not only noisey...it would actually shut down at highway speeds!!!
There is a small bolt in the center of the clutch that holds the clutch plate...remove it and the plate....take out a shim or two and re-install!!! It takes about 5 minutes and may fix you right up!!?? :beer:
Could be that it was set up wrong at the factory?? :banned:
Marauderjack
Jack, I saw the clutch under the hood by letting the a/c run while I looked under the hood at this thing that would start spinning, then stop spinning. I think this is best left to someone else as I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this myself. I can do simple things, but i'm honestly not the most mechanically inclined. Ever since I accidently drilled through the main wiring harness on my old Taurus while installing a bypass filtration system, I have just been scared to mess with anything that looks complex under the hood.
Bluerauder
CAMaraudin' in Virginia
I am also hearing a noticeable clicking noise that seems to be associated with the A/C cycling every couple seconds while idling in the driveway. Yesterday and today, the cooling has been very slow and the vent air temp is only cool but not cold even at 60 degree setting. The system really has not had a good shakeout because the temperature has been pretty mild around here. Is this "Black Death of A/C" a common occurrence at the 8K-9K mark??(my '03 has 8,600 miles). Is the a first symptoms of a A/C Compressor problem or a refrigerant leak??MENINBLK said:
Back in June of 03, I purchased a product from my dealer called "ICE" and added it to my refrigeration system which gives extra protection again wear, internal compressor noise, and provides additonal cooling properties. I can't even hear the compressor run much less cycle on and off. List price was $49.95 and my cost was $39.00 for a mear 6 ounce can, but it has been well worth every penny.
Have dealer check refrigeration pressures etc., but the compressor should not be making any noise unless it's defective. Air oulet temperator on Max should not be less than 45 degrees for this time of the year.
If your engine is bogging down, your compressor is severely overcharged or compressor/clutch bearing is seizing up.
Something is not right.....
Donald
"drobin"
Have dealer check refrigeration pressures etc., but the compressor should not be making any noise unless it's defective. Air oulet temperator on Max should not be less than 45 degrees for this time of the year.
If your engine is bogging down, your compressor is severely overcharged or compressor/clutch bearing is seizing up.
Something is not right.....
Donald
"drobin"
Unfortunately in my case, it's gonna have to blow up before my dealer will do anything about it. The tech admitted that it's not normal, but blatantly said that he can't do anything about it, and even hinted that I should spend some money in their service department! Oh well, like I said, i'm going to spend my money at a service department that cares a bit more about me, and then i'll see if they'll take a look at my car afterwards.............
Well, I talked with the loca SVT Ford dealer right next to me, and they told me that they would be happy to do warranty work on my Marauder. I talked with them for a few minutes, and they said they would glady take a look at the chirping issue, as well as my engine tapping noise as well. Well, since they have agreed to do warranty work on my car, I guess i'll never visit those guys and spend any more money at the Mercury dealership. What's funny is that their motto is, "...........the dealership where caring really does ring true." Yeah, I can see they care about their customers very much 
The local SVT Ford dealership is John Nolan Ford on Highland Ave, and they really do care about their customers instead of just paying lip service to you.
The local SVT Ford dealership is John Nolan Ford on Highland Ave, and they really do care about their customers instead of just paying lip service to you.
jgc61sr2002
Contributing Member
junehhan said:Well, I talked with the loca SVT Ford dealer right next to me, and they told me that they would be happy to do warranty work on my Marauder. I talked with them for a few minutes, and they said they would glady take a look at the chirping issue, as well as my engine tapping noise as well. Well, since they have agreed to do warranty work on my car, I guess i'll never visit those guys and spend any more money at the Mercury dealership. What's funny is that their motto is, "...........the dealership where caring really does ring true." Yeah, I can see they care about their customers very much
The local SVT Ford dealership is John Nolan Ford on Highland Ave, and they really do care about their customers instead of just paying lip service to you.
If all dealers were like that, we would have no problems. :up: :up: :up:
jgc61sr2002 said:
Yeah, that's why I have trouble having to spend money at a dealership that doesn't care about you as a customer to get them to do things they are supposed to be doing in the first place. It's sad when the fact you bought a car from them isn't enough anymore these days. Needless to say, i'm happier spending my money at dealerships that really do care no matter what. :beer:
It so happens that John Nolan Ford is one of the last privately family owned dealerships still remaining around, which may be why they are still committed to providing good honest service. John Nolan the senior has retired, but Robert Nolan now runs the shots, while his son Michael Nolan sells cars and is the director or marketing there. All of the other dealerships around town seem to be part of a mega big automotive group these days............
Well, before I decided to give up at my selling dealership, I decided to give them one last try which shocked the crap out of me. The chirping was getting worse when the compressor was cycling on, so I made another appointment with them. It was just my luck, that it had stopped chirping just as I pulled into the dealership, but they spent 3 hours anyway to see if they could find what the problem was. They also spent a lot of time with the Ford hotline to see if Ford could give them any advice as well. The bottom line, is that this problem has now been fixed and I finally have some faith for my selling dealership. They took the shims out of the a/c clutch to make sure they were within spec, then reinstalled them as a last resort. Not only is it not chirping now, but I also noticed that the compressor isn't as noisy as before when it cycles on. Before, I would hear a really loud pop as it came on along with the chirp, but now it's hardly detectable!