Honda changed my mind

Allow me to clarify another users comments about the car being one of the most popular stolen cars. I've been a Auto Theft Detective for the past five years, and have just been promoted to Sergeant. We have roughly 1,500 cars stolen in our city a year, down from 2,500 when I first started. I was also detached with the CT State Police Regional Auto Theft Task Force where I worked daily with the NICB. (National Insurance Crime Bureau.) The older Civics and Intgras had a very popular B16 and B18 series engine. They had crappy soft metal ignition tumblers that could be defeated with a pair of thin scissors or knife. They were aluminum head DOHC quick little cars. The Honda hatch models all came with a POS boat anchor D16. Si Civics and Integra's were stolen at an alarming rate due to the PRECISE swap, even down to the motor mounts. All the ricers would put these B series engines in their Hondas then add turbos and/or nitrous. Sometimes even a K20 from an RSX or a H20 from a Prelude. We started popping hoods on these cars and ran the engine stamp numbers which come back to the VIN that they belonged to, cross referenced them, and checked the theft history which revealed that the cars they belonged in were stolen and recovered, stripped of their engine. Ultimately we seized these legitimately registered and insured cars and crushed them.

I am getting a visual of Delroy Lindo in "Gone in 60 Seconds"! :)

Your new Civic has nothing to worry about in regards to theft. It has hardened steel tumblers, a coded PASSkey system, and can't be "hot wired" due to a mercury switch in the column.
Enjoy the car.

Well, that's both good news and bad news. I found out over the weekend she wants to get rid of the Honda and get a Tahoe. I'm not sure this is going to happen unless somebody steals the Honda.

Makes no sense to me, she will give up a brand new Honda Civic and a 4X4 Ford Explorer to get a Tahoe. WTH is wrong with kids??
 
Well, that's both good news and bad news. I found out over the weekend she wants to get rid of the Honda and get a Tahoe. I'm not sure this is going to happen unless somebody steals the Honda.
Makes no sense to me, she will give up a brand new Honda Civic and a 4X4 Ford Explorer to get a Tahoe. WTH is wrong with kids??

If she had to foot the bill for the car, registration, insurance etc. she'd be less inclined to spend money. Since she's not spending her own money, why not do whatever she wants??

So I look at it like "What's wrong with the parents", not what wrong with the kids......
 
I am getting a visual of Delroy Lindo in "Gone in 60 Seconds"! :)



Well, that's both good news and bad news. I found out over the weekend she wants to get rid of the Honda and get a Tahoe. I'm not sure this is going to happen unless somebody steals the Honda.

Makes no sense to me, she will give up a brand new Honda Civic and a 4X4 Ford Explorer to get a Tahoe.
WTH is wrong with kids??

They are spoiled.

BTW: Who would pay for gas in the Tahoe???

My 21 yr. old stepson drives a $900 '89 CV that we bought for him....and he likes it.
He also knows that if he didn't want the CV, he would have to buy his own vehicle of choice.
He also pays for insurance, gas, oil changes and tires.
 
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My bad!!! I should back up a bit. I bought and paid for her 4X4 Explorer when she turned 16. It was a very clean low mileage vehicle at a good price. It's still clean and still very low mileage. After all, my father did buy me my very first car.

Due to the lack of a credit history at age 18, the Honda was financed in my name at 0.9% interest. She is making the payments on it.

She has done extremely good in school. She's not wild or out of control. And having just become a Certified Nursing Assistant, it's her goal to become a Registered Nurse over the next few years.

Spoiled? Yes. But she doesn't get everything handed to her on a silver platter. The only reason I agreed to the Honda was to teach her financial responsibility. :)

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My bad!!! I should back up a bit. I bought and paid for her 4X4 Explorer when she turned 16. It was a very clean low mileage vehicle at a good price. It's still clean and still very low mileage. After all, my father did buy me my very first car.

Due to the lack of a credit history at age 18, the Honda was financed in my name at 0.9% interest. She is making the payments on it.

She has done extremely good in school. She's not wild or out of control. And having just become a Certified Nursing Assistant, it's her goal to become a Registered Nurse over the next few years.

Spoiled? Yes. But she doesn't get everything handed to her on a silver platter. The only reason I agreed to the Honda was to teach her financial responsibility. :)

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What financial responsibility? She already is looking to ditch the car for another one......

Why does she not have a credit history?

When my kids started driving I co-signed for a credit card with a $1,000.00 limit. They used it to by gas. Never once did I have to make any payments for them.

My kids bought their own cars, insurance, registration, etc. If they didn't have the money then it looks like they'd be walkin'. They are both successful adults, own their own homes, buy their own stuff, pay their own bills.

When my daughter graduated from high school she was a certified nursing assistant and a certified EMT. After 4 years of college, she's now a banker's assistant.

My son decided to go the "no college" route. He's been successful in the construction / parts business. Just got employee of the year after 6 months on the job.

Yes, I did get a car as part of my parents divorce, but I did have to pay for everything else since I was basically on my own when I turned 17.
 
Congrats on the new car, sorry to hear she already wants to get rid of it... but seriously, an 18 yr old with two cars?

Like it was said before, I don't care much for boring cars. And there are plenty of those on both sides of the fence. Driving a civic/accord/corolla/camry/avalon/old round tauruses/FWD malibus/new FWD impalas/cobalts*/neons**/calibers/foci/jettas/sentras is about as exciting as drowning in wallpaper paste. I liked the 47-51mpg of my tdi jetta, and the build quality, but good lord that thing was annoyingly dull, slow, gutless, pointless, roomless, useless. Great car for going from point a to point b; but I'm guessing most on this site don't buy cars for that purpose...

*ion redline excluded
**SRT4 excluded

As for the person asking what AWD 4 door american car you can buy nowadays, I'd suggest trying out one of the 08 tauruses/Sables, with the 3.5 and awd... I tried a FWD one and the thing was a sleeper. Would definitely surprise a stock 79-04 mustang GT, esp in AWD form I'm guessing (FWD had no problem laying rubber while shifting into 2nd). I'm guessing the lighter fusion sport AWD would be even quicker.

Now show me what 4 door japanese car will keep up with a CTS-V ;)
 
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Congrats on the new car, sorry to hear she already wants to get rid of it... but seriously, an 18 yr old with two cars?

I applied some magic this morning, and convinced her to keep what she has. I showed her where the ex-president of Shell Oil said this morning on TV that gas will be $5.00 a gallon within 18 months. I told her it would then cost $200 to fill up a Tahoe. :D

I hope the guy is crying wolf! $5.00 a gallon? Even most middle class working folks will not be able to afford gas then!
 
I applied some magic this morning, and convinced her to keep what she has. I showed her where the ex-president of Shell Oil said this morning on TV that gas will be $5.00 a gallon within 18 months. I told her it would then cost $200 to fill up a Tahoe. :D

I hope the guy is crying wolf! $5.00 a gallon? Even most middle class working folks will not be able to afford gas then!

I believe it. If you have some time to kill, watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI-BIVWlc7A

It's sort of boring until the 6:30 mark. Get's scary after that, depressing stuff.
 
I applied some magic this morning, and convinced her to keep what she has. I showed her where the ex-president of Shell Oil said this morning on TV that gas will be $5.00 a gallon within 18 months. I told her it would then cost $200 to fill up a Tahoe. :D

I hope the guy is crying wolf! $5.00 a gallon? Even most middle class working folks will not be able to afford gas then!

There's always a bright side. Last time it hit $4/gallon I bought my excursion with 90k miles for 7k. 2 years later and with 30k miles more on it, it books for 9k . Of course, if it goes to $5/gal it'll be worth 2000 bucks at best... :shake: But, point is, good time to buy a truck ;)

Plus, if gas hits $5 in 18 months, Obama's chances for re-election will be 0. I'll fill up the 44 gallon tank in the excursion every day if it helps that. :D
 
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