For Sale Marauder wheels, nice, widened 2" by Weldcraft

Joe Walsh said:
As has been noted already....$700 is a DEAL for two widened OEM Marauder rims.
Buy them and then save your stock Marauder rims.

Jeez,
This site has quickly become like the FourEyed Pride forum....
Lots of 'tire kickers' and low ballers, but no one wants to pony up any cash.

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This is my ad, so I'll crap in it.
Joe - you speak volumes.
I understand if guys message me that are short on cash, saving to get the same item new, hoping for a break. Some pertinent questions about the item, not stated within the ad. Try to deal, offer a reasonable price....
But no, instead, insulting low balls, or "I'll take it!", only followed with a message - "oh,, well, not exactly what I thought or need, I did no research, can you explain how this all works? Can you measure everything with pictures?Oh, that looks great - but - no sale then, but thanks''.
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What brand of used parts / cars buying population has evolved? Does this happen when they buy retail? NO. They just pay full price.
Once buying an item used, it's suddenly black market voodoo buying with zero ethic, professionalism or assumed responsibility to hold an end of a purchase..
Once selling THEIR item used, it's worth retail - don't try to get any deals! And sell it out from under your offer for full asking price payment - someone offered more.
On this forum and others, over the past year or two - this experience has become expected.

To all the members shaking your heads reading, because you buy/sell things traditionally, please shrug off my rant.
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After I sold my first Marauder in 2012, I sold off about 10 different spare/extra parts that were laying around. Not a single person low balled and they all payed listed price. A lot has changed in 7 years.
 
chief455 said:
This is my ad, so I'll crap in it.
Joe - you speak volumes.
I understand if guys message me that are short on cash, saving to get the same item new, hoping for a break. Some pertinent questions about the item, not stated within the ad. Try to deal, offer a reasonable price....
But no, instead, insulting low balls, or "I'll take it!", only followed with a message - "oh,, well, not exactly what I thought or need, I did no research, can you explain how this all works? Can you measure everything with pictures?Oh, that looks great - but - no sale then, but thanks''.
...
What brand of used parts / cars buying population has evolved? Does this happen when they buy retail? NO. They just pay full price.
Once buying an item used, it's suddenly black market voodoo buying with zero ethic, professionalism or assumed responsibility to hold an end of a purchase..
Once selling THEIR item used, it's worth retail - don't try to get any deals! And sell it out from under your offer for full asking price payment - someone offered more.
On this forum and others, over the past year or two - this experience has become expected.

To all the members shaking your heads reading, because you buy/sell things traditionally, please shrug off my rant.
TO THE TOP....
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This x1000, I tossed good marauder specific parts in the trash because I wasn’t going to deal with it. The last item was a factory service manual, a fella wanted a set, I told him to pm me, then the collective jumped in steering him to their own eBay auctions and such, what I didn’t post on the open forum is that they were free, the trash can was closer and I didn’t have to even spend time or money shipping them.

This forum at one time was full of people that would help others, now it appears to be full of those that just want to help themselves. Makes no difference to me, I have a few more boxes of parts, I may sell them, I may toss them. It’s all good...


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LOL....
True.
Buying a Marauder was once an expensive proposition.
So was, and is, modding one...$$$

Now that beat-to-hell Marauders can be bought for chump change, the buyers expect great condition OEM Marauder parts to be just as cheap.

They best stick with crappy chromed Chinese rims and junkyard 5.3 LS motors.


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justbob said:
Originally Posted by sailsmen
Whats changed is the Marauder is 7 years older and the 8th gen owners are 20 years younger.

Fixed.


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Joe Walsh said:
LOL....
True.
Buying a Marauder was once an expensive proposition.
So was, and is, modding one...$$$

Now that beat-to-hell Marauders can be bought for chump change, the buyers expect great condition OEM Marauder parts to be just as cheap.

They best stick with crappy chromed Chinese rims and junkyard 5.3 LS motors.


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Now we're getting to the root cause. It's a younger, me too, entitled buying demographic, with far less passion for the 'spirit' of owning a Marauder. And less social skills and desire to be a community.
Just get into that cool car cheap.
The 93-02 F-body 4th generation cars went through the same cycle. It sucked to watch diminish, and selling excellent, hard to find OEM parts is futile. Nobody cares.
A 93-97 Firebird full console in mint condition, would have fetched north of $150 in a day, in the early to mid 2000's. Today , I can't give it away.
Marauder / parts will face a similar demise, I believe. Once, a crowd of educated, hungry buyers turns into a scattered few - without means or motivation to pay previous value.
 
Let’s see, this is how this thread played out...
Chief listed the wheels at $700. Had an offer of $500, that you were going to accept until the buyer backed out. I made a similar offer as the original interested buyer that backed out, that the OP had excepted. But somehow my offer makes me a low baller. Funny how that works. My offer was a starting point to which you’re more than welcome to counter. If not that’s cool.

Spectra-Douche then interjects himself spouting off about **** he knows nothing about and that he wouldn’t have the balls to say standing in front of me, in typical internet tough guy fashion.

Followed by other similar snide comments about my finances, which you know nothing about. God forbid I try to negotiate the price. None of you ever negotiate for a better deal when buying something? Ohhh, you have so much money you don’t need to work a better deal. I’m impressed. I must be a real *********. Oh nope, we can clearly see who the ********* is.

It’s very distasteful and rude the accusations that are being thrown around in this thread. Not 1 of you motherfukkers knows me personally and you couldn’t be further from the truth on anything that was said about me or in reference to me. You want to act disappointed in the lack of interest in your beloved Marauder or crappy 90s firebird, by younger generations but you treat people with no respect. This attitude will only lead to less interest. Before judging people you don’t know, try looking in the god damn mirror.
 
Blakshukvw said:
Let’s see, this is how this thread played out...
Chief listed the wheels at $700. Had an offer of $500, that you were going to accept until the buyer backed out. I made a similar offer as the original interested buyer that backed out, that the OP had excepted. But somehow my offer makes me a low baller. Funny how that works. My offer was a starting point to which you’re more than welcome to counter. If not that’s cool.

Spectra-Douche then interjects himself spouting off about **** he knows nothing about and that he wouldn’t have the balls to say standing in front of me, in typical internet tough guy fashion.

Followed by other similar snide comments about my finances, which you know nothing about. God forbid I try to negotiate the price. None of you ever negotiate for a better deal when buying something? Ohhh, you have so much money you don’t need to work a better deal. I’m impressed. I must be a real *********. Oh nope, we can clearly see who the ********* is.

It’s very distasteful and rude the accusations that are being thrown around in this thread. Not 1 of you motherfukkers knows me personally and you couldn’t be further from the truth on anything that was said about me or in reference to me. You want to act disappointed in the lack of interest in your beloved Marauder or crappy 90s firebird, by younger generations but you treat people with no respect. This attitude will only lead to less interest. Before judging people you don’t know, try looking in the god damn mirror.
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Let’s see.....

I believe he was going to accept $500 + shipping + PayPal fees, seems reasonable, unless your across the street from him, shipping is real money, which is why you don’t want to pay it, you gotta pay to play, no free trophies here.

Next on the agenda, you call me a douch, and then blame me for name calling, uhmm yeah, right. I wouldn’t say it to your face, wrong again, because I give 100% -0- f’s if I hurt your feeling, I know you’ll beat my azz and everything, problem is there won’t be anyone for you to brag to.

You finances and a better price, I think you mean steal them, you want them, step up or send yours off, either way you $500 deep into them, shouldn’t be a big deal for you. I don’t need to work a better deal over a $500 part, your just trying to take advantage of a disabled guy, not cool.

And your right, I don’t know you personally, but if I did, we are on 2 different playing fields, I probably couldn’t hang with a guy of your status.
We aren’t disappointed because you have no marauder love, we were only reminding each other of what a great family this group used to be, people move on, change hobbies, life happens, we get it, but because you have a car that was once awesome, and you bought it for Vic money, you don’t get the right to crap on everyone’s ad’s because we aren’t willing to cave in to low dollar offers.


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Spectragod said:
Let’s see.....

I believe he was going to accept $500 + shipping + PayPal fees, seems reasonable, unless your across the street from him, shipping is real money, which is why you don’t want to pay it, you gotta pay to play, no free trophies here.

Next on the agenda, you call me a douch, and then blame me for name calling, uhmm yeah, right. I wouldn’t say it to your face, wrong again, because I give 100% -0- f’s if I hurt your feeling, I know you’ll beat my azz and everything, problem is there won’t be anyone for you to brag to.

You finances and a better price, I think you mean steal them, you want them, step up or send yours off, either way you $500 deep into them, shouldn’t be a big deal for you. I don’t need to work a better deal over a $500 part, your just trying to take advantage of a disabled guy, not cool.

And your right, I don’t know you personally, but if I did, we are on 2 different playing fields, I probably couldn’t hang with a guy of your status.
We aren’t disappointed because you have no marauder love, we were only reminding each other of what a great family this group used to be, people move on, change hobbies, life happens, we get it, but because you have a car that was once awesome, and you bought it for Vic money, you don’t get the right to crap on everyone’s ad’s because we aren’t willing to cave in to low dollar offers.


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I never knew the ins and outs of the sale that fell through because he never made that public unlike my offer I made to him through a “private” message. Seems you guys are bosom buddies and he shares all the details with you. Regardless, I only knew he was willing to accept $500 as stated in the post. Like I said my offer was an offer. He is/was more than welcome to counter it.

I never expected anything for free, hence my offer.

Im glad you mentioned the price to widen a set of these. As you stated, I can have mine widened cheaper than buying these at his now $700 price. Again, hence why I made an offer. For the right price, they’re a good deal. Otherwise, I can send mine off for probably less.

There you go again insinuating crap about me that you don’t know. You say the seller is handicapped? I don’t know him. I didn’t know that about him until you just brought it up. How dare you accuse me of such disgusting behavior. You just made another horrible assumption about me. You just keep stepping in it. I’m not sure what his handicap has to do with this anyway? Are you implying I’m not allowed to make offers to him because he’s handicapped? And now we’re reduced to talking about this mans handicap, which I’m sure he appreciates. Some friend you are.

Chief I sincerely apologize where this has gone. It wasn’t my intention to make this about your personal life. It wasn’t I that took it there.

I don’t know what “status” you think I have? I never claimed to have any. I’m not the one that called someone’s finances into question.

I never said I have no love for the marauder. I own one for Christ sakes. I put 20k miles on it the first year of ownership. I think I have plenty of marauder love. I definitely didn’t pay Vic money for it either. I’m am very calculated though when it comes to mods and those purchases.

If it seems to feel less and less like family on this forum, start to look within yourself. You are the person responsible for the way this thread has gone. Probably others like it. If this is how you treat family, I’d be surprised if you have any that like you. I refuse to hold your bad attitude, rude assumptions, and despicable generalizations about me against you however. I know sometimes we all have bad days or are in a dark place. Sometimes we say things before we’ve thought them through. I believe if your older than me than you know this to be true and you’re old enough to know better so I forgive you, brother.
 
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