New az immigration law... Almost...

Move 'em on, head 'em up
Head 'em up, move 'em on
Move 'em on, head 'em up
Rawhide
 
I love the idea. All they have to do is carry identification, which is the law for everyone anyways, and then they will be fine, IF they are legall. It's about tiime something is done about it! This will no doubt slow the crime rate and boost jobs. Where is the negative in this if you are a legal citizen with nothing to hide?
 
They had to get rid of Napolitano to do it. I guess the Arizonans appreciate Obama for that.
 
About time someone did something! I think we should pay the mexican federalies $100 for every person shot dead trying to cross the border illegally. It would save America a lot of money and I think you'd find it would reduce illegal immigration.
 
"The bill's supporters say a local crackdown has become a necessity because the federal government has failed to adequately seal the borders or actively enforce its laws. They blame Arizona's spiraling crime and unemployment rates on its large population of illegal immigrants. "

Amen to that...this "do nothing", unless it's stupid, Congress forces states to do their work for them.
 
I am tired of this Country proclaiming to be "The best" then folding like a wuss and being so soft and politically correct. A majority of problems from state budgets, hospitals, health care and business ethics are all related to the insurgence of millions of criminal invaders. Calling them 'illegal immigrants' is the stupidest oxymoron I can imagine. Calling them 'undocumented citizens' is the political correctness hall of fame winner. They come here illegally - they KNOW they are here illegally. I feel sorry for nobody that gets their dumb ass deported and has their family torn apart after knowingly establishing those types of roots in a Country you're not even supposed to be in. Good for Arizona!
 
The idiotic approach the liberals have is to just legalize them. That's BS. What a slap in the face of all the people who have gone through years of paperwork, legal hassles, and tens of thousands in expenses so they could come here legally. I have 2 friends and a cousin who married women from another country and have gone through the trouble to do it the right way, now the federal government wants to tell them they should have just snuck in instead?
 
"The really dangerous impact is the creation of a new state crime related to trespassing. If law enforcement has a reasonable suspicion that someone is undocumented they can be stopped and forced to prove they're a U.S. citizen. If they can't prove it, they can be arrested," said Jennifer Allen, director of the Border Action Network, an immigrant advocacy group,


This is the lamest arguement I have heard yet. Who other than politicians can take these people seriously? Way beyond time to retire all politicians after 2 terms max.
 
Hotrauder said:
"The really dangerous impact is the creation of a new state crime related to trespassing. If law enforcement has a reasonable suspicion that someone is undocumented they can be stopped and forced to prove they're a U.S. citizen. If they can't prove it, they can be arrested," said Jennifer Allen, director of the Border Action Network, an immigrant advocacy group,


This is the lamest arguement I have heard yet. Who other than politicians can take these people seriously? Way beyond time to retire all politicians after 2 terms max.
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When my Grandfather came to this country he had to carry around an ID card stating that he was an American Citizen and he immigrated from Germany. If it was good enough for him it is good enough for all other immgrtants, legal or illegal.
 
Hotrauder said:
"The really dangerous impact is the creation of a new state crime related to trespassing. If law enforcement has a reasonable suspicion that someone is undocumented they can be stopped and forced to prove they're a U.S. citizen. If they can't prove it, they can be arrested," said Jennifer Allen, director of the Border Action Network, an immigrant advocacy group,
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So under that same theory it is dangerous to arrest a bloody guy with a gun for suspicion of murder?
 
Now that healthcare has been crammed down our throat Congress says Immigration is one of their next Priorities. Hopefully we can have some CHANGE in November before that happens.
 
justbob said:
I love the idea. All they have to do is carry identification, which is the law for everyone anyways, and then they will be fine, IF they are legal. It's about time something is done about it! This will no doubt slow the crime rate and boost jobs. Where is the negative in this if you are a legal citizen with nothing to hide?
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To the best of my knowledge there is no provision in U.S. law that states Americans must carry identification at all times. Drivers licences and such are only needed when doing such activities.
 
Your right Eric. But atleast in IL. if over 18 you must possess a state issued picture ID at all times, whether it be a license, state ID, or even a FOID card. I just kinda figured all states were close to ours. It's really not that much to ask for and it would only benefit you if you are a minority to prove your rights as such. If the legal citizens can't come up with something of the sort in Arizona, then either they are bull headed and don't want to make it easier to prove their citizenship or they are illegal. I wish they would do something like this in my state to secure more jobs. Our contractors are charging the same rate here no matter on the price of labor.
 
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There are no Federal Laws nor any state laws that mandate that someone must obatin any kind of ID or carry one.

Driving is a different story, you must get an ID and carry it.

This will be the interesting part, there are ways to conduct records checks based on a name/DOB/POB that officers can check for people suspected of being illegal.

Not so long ago to cross the border all someone had to say was "I am American" and that was it, if they seemed honest, they got in...

Then birth certificates were enough... (eaisly forgable)

Now everyone has to have a passport...
 
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