Procharger Challenges Trilogy to Race

[Jerry Barnes]

Beers are on me!

Good post Jerry. I like your style, and hope to get the chance to shake your hand, buy you a beer ......and thrash the pi$$ out of your newly reconstructed Trillogy #1 at MVIII.

BTW Guys, if I put my 15.3 (my best run at the shootout) up against Barry, (who turned a 13.2) and he redlights, did I beat him?

What I'm saying here is; the winner of a race doesn't necessarily have the best/fastest car.

Mike,

It would be a pleasure to buy you a beer! See you at MVIII!

 

[jstevens]

I'm sorry to hear that someone was banned.

I was going to be smart because people piss me off when they get so bent out of shape so easily.

But, my mom said "if you have nothing nice to say, don't"

 

[Captain Steve]

O.K. Guys,

I am starting to get into the spirit of these threads. So here goes.

If one of my customers, IN FLORIDA, has to race you Maraudernkc then one of your customers in Michigan has to race me, right! Do you have any customers in Michigan? Do you have any other customers in any other state? Other then the ProCharger you have on your car and your Mom's car, are there any other Procharger cars anywhere? I'm sure your Mom has a better reaction time then I do!

Oh, by the way, I can arrange a race in Saudi Arabia, I installed 2 superchargers on a Sheiks 2 Marauders. We could have the race in the sand, with stock tires, 4:10 gears and a camel in the truck(weight distribution you now).

We could call it the INTERNATIONAL GALACTIC MARAUDER RACE OF CHAMPIANS.

Just having some fun!!

Jerry

I think Jerry's had a bit too much sugar in his coffee. I'm having a mental image inspired by my 3 year old nephew (Uncle Steve car fast.. vrooom!!) involving arms used as airplane wings and much vrooming.:cool5:


Seriously, it's nice to see Jerry taking all the internet jousting with the attitude it merits.. slightly ridiculous but fun.
:cheer: :duel: :bop: :gunfire: :bunny2: :dogrun:

 

[duhtroll]

And I volunteer.

All you have to do is buy me the kit and I'm there. I'll race anyone. I'll even drive cross-country to do it.

Hah? Hah? :hmmm: :thinker:

-A

O.K. Guys,

I am starting to get into the spirit of these threads. So here goes.

If one of my customers, IN FLORIDA, has to race you Maraudernkc then one of your customers in Michigan has to race me, right! Do you have any customers in Michigan? Do you have any other customers in any other state? Other then the ProCharger you have on your car and your Mom's car, are there any other Procharger cars anywhere? I'm sure your Mom has a better reaction time then I do!

Oh, by the way, I can arrange a race in Saudi Arabia, I installed 2 superchargers on a Sheiks 2 Marauders. We could have the race in the sand, with stock tires, 4:10 gears and a camel in the truck(weight distribution you now).

We could call it the INTERNATIONAL GALACTIC MARAUDER RACE OF CHAMPIANS.

Just having some fun!!

Jerry

 

[maraudernkc]

Jerry, I agree with you that arguing over these Blowers are not worth getting banned from this site. We all need to keep are cool like yourself and treat each member with respect. You are very lucky to have Lidio in your state as I hear he is a great tuner.

Jerry, I would love to run my Marauder against you Marauder but before we do so I will disclose to you what I have done to the car. This is just a WTF race and to have some fun. That's why we have blowers on our cars, to have fun and get a great big smile.

I have said this before and I will say it again. I admire you and your company. Why? Because you have 70 plus blowers out there and all your customers are happy. That's one hell of accomplishment with our bunch here. Agin I commend you for a job well done!

I look forward to meeting you in person and your buying the soda pop because you have sold more blowers. :beer:


Maraudernkc

Maraudernkc,

I am sure we will get the chance to race one day and I may lose, but I enjoy the lively conversatons about how we have improved our Marauders. There is nothing wrong with the discussions and they should continue. I remember we use to have these types of discussions with Dennis Reinhart Marauder Owners and now we are friends and frequently hang out together at the drag races. I hate to see all of us get caught up in these discussions when at the end of the day we will all get along.

As far as Lidio's opinion, it is just that, his opinion. But, I think he is one of the brightest and best tuners for Fords in the business and we are all glad to have him close by in Michigan. I think Lidio not only installs Trilogy kits, but a lot more Vortech kits for Mustangs. So, IT IS MY OPINION, that Lidio knows his stuff and we think that he has helped all of the Michigan Marauder Owners significantly. It is Lidio's bread and butter to know performance options and what works reliably. So when he expresses his opinion, with facts to back it up, we listen. And yes, we are a little bias with regard to Lidio, because we have all become close friends and business partners. So, when Lidio expressed his opinion, I don't think he intended to insult another persons opinion, just express his thoughts on the subject. And that's O.K, right?

As far as the Trilogy Supercharger approach vs. Dennis or Kenny or Procharger, etc. they all have there merits. We all have our own approach and feel we have worked to perfect that approach. There will be days when Dennis's approach may be faster and days that Trilogy's approach will be faster, the bottom line is that all of the customers have got cars that are a lot more fun to drive and we have given them choices. That's a good thing, right?

My good friend Mike Z. got banned from the web site last night for expressing his views and butting heads with Logan. This I do not like to see. Mike has been a great customer and very close friend. No car race is worth seeing Mike not be able to participate in these debates. He is very knowledgeable, has a ton of real world experience and everyone on this site benefits from input provided by people like Mike. I am going to get Logan and Mike together to see if we can all sing "cum bi yah" together(how ever you spell that). Superchargers aren't worth losing friends over!

And finally, Maraudernkc, I hope we meet someday soon so I can kick your a$$, just after I have snacked on a couple of Impala SS's(ha ha ha ha ha). Just friendly joking!!! And I will make sure my car only has street tires, 4:10 gears, fully tweaked exhaust, and a undisclosed forged bottom end of my motor. Ha ha, again!

See everyone at MVIII!!!

Jerry

 

[MI2QWK4U]

And I volunteer.

All you have to do is buy me the kit and I'm there. I'll race anyone. I'll even drive cross-country to do it.

Hah? Hah? :hmmm: :thinker:

-A

Anyone up for another blower raffle? Proceeds to help fund WDC Parking at MVIII? Hundred bucks and you could have that blower.....

 

[Bigdogjim]

Please read the post!

I'm sorry to hear that someone was banned.

I was going to be smart because people piss me off when they get so bent out of shape so easily.

But, my mom said "if you have nothing nice to say, don't"

Let me just say that no one but, no one GOT banned.

Mike got warned by Logan to "play nice"

Mike took it upon himsef to ban himself for 2 weeks.

Logan then confirmed it.

 

[MI2QWK4U]

Let me just say that no one but, no one GOT banned.

Mike got warned by Logan to "play nice"

Mike took it upon himsef to ban himself for 2 weeks.

Logan then confirmed it.

No...for life. Got a smilie for that?

 

[Bigdogjim]

Huh?

Only warning. Put the dicks back in the pants. NOW. If you can't take the man up on some clean honest fun and act like gentlemen, y'all can step right off the plank for a week or two.

OK here is the post where did life come from?

 

[MI2QWK4U]

BillGman, We did not race Jerry Barnes because there was no need to but Lidio made a post yesterday talking about Centrifical blowers not really being right for a 4200 lb car and he is intitled to his opnion. He stated that you have to have other mods to make ia cenntrifical blower work. I feel that is not true and that's when I put out a friendly challenge to have a Trilogy car and a Prochager car run down the track under the following conditions.

1. 93 octane gas

2. Factory rear tires

3. Two cars with the same or close to the same mods.

4. Both cars must be at operating tempature.


The reason I want to use the factory rear tires is because that is what most people drive on everyday. I don't drive my car every day on drag tires.

Like I previously stated we have a car in Florida that has the following mods:

Procharger standard kit
Flowmaster Mufflers
4:10 Gears

I can't do anything about the gears they were already on the car and we are not taking them out to prove a point.

This is nothing more than a friendly race.

I really don't care if we win or loose .

Let's just get this done so we can start kicking some Impala a**.

If you anyone wants to see a time slip, this is your chance.

Greg, Just a couple things...
I think we have gotten away from the jist of things here. This thread was in response to Lidio's post about running a stock Marauder with the blower only. If that happens, great, and I am willing to make a friendly wager on the outcome. But face it, if you add the gears or stall to the Procharger, you are giving it exactly what Lidio says it needs to compete with the Eaton.
Dont kid yourself about friendly races, they are great and full of good rivalries, but I dont race under the shadow of conditions. Run it as you brought it. When I pull up to a car at a light, I dont roll down my window and ask the guy if he has gears, nitrous, high stall, etc etc. You roll up....give and get that knowing nod, and you run what you have. Now i pretty much run the car on pump gas, so thats not a problem, but stock tires?
The stock tires even when my car only had the trilogy, nothing else, could not hold up for a solid launch at the strip, they always spin. That is due to the Eatons unbelievable torque at low rpm....fact...not opinion. Even now with my car, that runs on Nitto Drag Radials ALL THE TIME just fine, I can spin them off the rim without much effort. If you come to woodward, Im sure we will all have some fun dogging each other at the track.

 

[Jerry Barnes]

Response from Jerry Barnes

Let me just say that no one but, no one GOT banned.

Mike got warned by Logan to "play nice"

Mike took it upon himsef to ban himself for 2 weeks.

Logan then confirmed it.

O.K. Jim,

But, let's get over it and I am sure that Mike would agree. Everyone gets a little off track and then everything falls apart. Mike and I plan to call Logan tomorrow to get our group back on track and in good standing with the site. Isn't that what we all want? I think so!

Thanks,

Jerry

 

[Bigdogjim]

On track!

O.K. Jim,

But, let's get over it and I am sure that Mike would agree. Everyone gets a little off track and then everything falls apart. Mike and I plan to call Logan tomorrow to get our group back on track and in good standing with the site. Isn't that what we all want? I think so!

Thanks,

Jerry

Get over it?

Hell it never bother me

I just think when members blame their woes on other it sucks!

You get warned act on it! Like an adult!! Not a kid!

As for being on track I was never de-railed:rofl:

 

[MarauderTJA]

To All Members..A head to head challenge has been made by MarauderTJA to race a Trilogy equipped vehicle at Bradenton Speedway in FL.
QUOTE]

Boy, talk about dumping gas on the fire!

Why don't you just post some time slips, like everyone else?

And, while we're at it, what about the Kenny Brown cars? I'll hold Haggis' MM up as one of the best examples of a "total" performance package out there. (sorry for dragging you into this, Gordon) I think when we're talking mods, we're also talking performance, and doing 12sec ET's isn't the whole story. If low ET's are all you're interested in, then the best bang for the buck is nitrous.

I believe, in discussions about performance, we start to confuse cost with outcome. My friend Bobby Berger, a super engine builder from Leitersburg, MD said it best: "Speed costs money, how fast you wanna go?". I'll add something else; how well (read safely) do you want to go fast, and for how long?

Mike, this whole thing has been totally taken out of context. It may have been the wording that TMAC used "head to head challenge." All we want to do is have some fun. Nothing more. We Procharger guys are the new kids on the block. It is nice to have some new choices for us MM guys. I already posted why I chose the Procharger over the Trilogy. In fact I had plans to buy a Triolgy, then I heard about the Procharger Kit and waited for it to come out. I have had a Procharger in my 01 Mustang GT and love it. So I "chose" the Procharger. A couple of my MM buddies have Triolgy's. There great and they love them. I never put them down, nor will I ever. KingFubar is getting a Triology soon as well. He came by my office today and said he'll run me just as soon as it gets installed. We'll hit the strip and have some fun at a future test and tune night. It is all about choice. My choice. Time slips will be posted as soon as I get a chance to get to the strip. Just gotta love our Marauders no matter what you do to the car.... Smoke the Chevy's and Rice burners..

 

[mensrea]

What the hell is wrong with you people? If you haven't realized by now that no one cares you are probably still crapping in a plastic toilet. Get over it, drive what you brought and enjoy what you have. Leave this crap at home.

 

[MarauderTJA]

Street Tires

What kind of times do you actually gain by using drag radials vs street tires? I mean i ran my best on stock tires .so what would gain if i put on drags?A tenth or 2 ? or more? if you heat up the tires good they stick nicely for great start as the same with drags correct?

FYI, I spoke with a BF Goodrich rep at the NMRA Spring Break Shootout here in FLorida this past weekend and he said that we should not heat our tires (burnout). He advised that the tire composition is designed to stick better without burn outs. I have not tried this yet, but it will be interesting to see if the car hooks up better. Has anyone else out there tried this? I will eventually get my rims widened through Lidio and get the drag street radials. I have Nitto 315's drag radials on my Supercharged GT Mustang and they really stick.

 

[Logan]

Let me just say that no one but, no one GOT banned.

Mike got warned by Logan to "play nice"

Mike took it upon himsef to ban himself for 2 weeks.

Logan then confirmed it.

Yeah, Jim worded it properly and included the proper smiley. No one got banned, especially for life... If Mike got pissed and left, well that's on him, not me... My response indicating he was intended to be slapstick-ish, but apparently, my humor is entirely too dry.

I don't really care what Mike does or whether he wants to take a vacation or not. Net result was what I was going after, this thread turned into a hilarious thread. Much better than the pot shots that were damned inevitable at one point...

Y'all need to chill. It's all good.

Just got back from a 10 hour drive from Mississipi to Texas in the new CTS-V. Wheel hop issue is over-stated, I've never been one to dump my clutch from 4k rpm and that's the only way I could get the slightest hop out of mine...

...and yes, a nice Magnusson kit will be the only mod on this cat, just so I can bring it to MV III and annoy everybody.

Ok...I'll shut up with my V now... Sounds gay for Marauder dude to be getting all excited about his Caddy.

 

[CRUZTAKER]

My N/A car can beat a Trilogy car.
-A

Now that is something to think about.....

Maybe one or two of them that is.

....I wondered how long it would take for that word to come up. NITROUS, I know I'll be there in Bradenton if this every happens...Can't wait to see it...Tallboy, (Chuck) doesn't your car match this to the tee???

Right on man! I wish I could make it down there. I can't wait to see my numbers with a hundred shot.

 

[merc]

Yeah, Jim worded it properly and included the proper smiley. No one got banned, especially for life... If Mike got pissed and left, well that's on him, not me... My response indicating he was intended to be slapstick-ish, but apparently, my humor is entirely too dry.

I don't really care what Mike does or whether he wants to take a vacation or not. Net result was what I was going after, this thread turned into a hilarious thread. Much better than the pot shots that were damned inevitable at one point...

Y'all need to chill. It's all good.

Just got back from a 10 hour drive from Mississipi to Texas in the new CTS-V. Wheel hop issue is over-stated, I've never been one to dump my clutch from 4k rpm and that's the only way I could get the slightest hop out of mine...

...and yes, a nice Magnusson kit will be the only mod on this cat, just so I can bring it to MV III and annoy everybody.

Ok...I'll shut up with my V now... Sounds gay for Marauder dude to be getting all excited about his Caddy.

Most of the bothers in my hood would think you are a pimp, not a fag. Are you sure you are White ? Ok, I will band myself for 24 hours, save the fingers.

 

[TAF]

I heard that all those new Caddys had some BIG problems with the in-car audio systems....

The only thing it plays is THIS









:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[CRUZTAKER]

Are you sure you are White ?

He's Canadian....

DOH! "Ok, I will band myself for 24 hours, save the fingers. "