Raced 3 Harleys tonight:

BillyGman said:
Sure if it's a Jap bike. But not a Harley. A Supercharged Marauder will take them "everytime" competent rider or not. Unless the Harley engine had a whole lot of $$ put into it.

That's a pretty broad statement to make. I would say that it really depends on which stock Harley and who's Supercharged Marauder. My wife's 2004 Sportster 1200R (13.43 sec. @ 95.2 mph ala http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/hd1200s04/) could take my Supercharged Marauder under the right circumstance. While I've gotten my car into the high 12's, low to mid-13's are generally achieved when I have traction problems (i.e. cold weather).

And where are the German bikes in this discussion? My stock BMW R1150R pulls like it was tuned by Lidio :) While it definitely won't take a new Japenese motorcycle, I'd wager dollars to donuts that it would smoke anyone's Marauder. (Not that any tracks around here will let you run a bike and a car at the same time)

Not to open any off-topic cans of worms in a thread this old... but as a guy who rides about 10k miles/year, I have little respect for riders who can't obey basic traffic laws. If you can't figure out how to use your turn signal or keep both wheels on the ground, save us all the headaches and park your bike. Personally, I would have to say that Goldwing riders are the safest on the road. (I may be biased... that's generally all I see on the freeway during my morning/afternoon commutes)
 
Nathan said:
That's a pretty broad statement to make. I would say that it really depends on which stock Harley and who's Supercharged Marauder. My wife's 2004 Sportster 1200R (13.43 sec. @ 95.2 mph ala http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/hd1200s04/) could take my Supercharged Marauder under the right circumstance. While I've gotten my car into the high 12's, low to mid-13's are generally achieved when I have traction problems (i.e. cold weather).

Okay Nate, but in light of your wife's bike's best expected ET's being a half second slower than your S/Ced Marauder's best ET's, obviously any time when your wife's bike would run faster would turn out to be the exception to the rule. So it's agreed that I shouldn't say "every time", but I will say "most" of the time. After all, a half second in the quartermile is pretty significant.
 
The fast Harley is the one you push over a cliff. I do not under stand the HD thing. You pay $12-20,000 for what in reality is 50 year old technology. Then again why change when you sucker people into the HD mystique. Let's not forget the styling mastery of Willie G. Davidson :lol:


HD = poser
 
I don't own a Harley, but if I had to guess, I'd say (as I've already said before) that it haas to do atleast in part w/how no Jap bikes sound like Harleys do. And weather or not there are even any Jap bikes that look like Harleys is also debateable I suppose. There's also another claimed factor about Harleys that their owners sometimes claim, but I cannot talk about such matters among mixed company.
 
Rob1559 said:
Do you mean that having a HD makes up for the lack of a :banana: if you know what I mean? :D
Maybe thats why some people drive Marauders :nono: You boys are not going to let this go are you .I think you boys need to think a little more about what you are saying :cry: Most of us Harley riders have the bike because it is an American thing Get it. Do you Have a problem with that . :shot: .I thought the chevy guys were bad. Now get over it .
 
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hmmm, I didn't think that I said anything that would get anyone angry including you, nor did I think that you said anything that got me angry. Now stop being a "MadMan" already. :D

Seriously though, if anything, I was sticking up for Harley owners, and I was trying to say something positive about them. I can tell that Rob1559, either didn't know what I was refering to, or he did, and tried to turn it around to say something negative about them. But either way, it's really no biggie to me.
 
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Don't get me started on Harleys. I would buy a Buell before buying a Harley. At least most guys don't run Buells with annoyingly open pipes.

Dan
 
Dan said:
Don't get me started on Harleys. I would buy a Buell before buying a Harley. At least most guys don't run Buells with annoyingly open pipes.

Dan

I never understood why some people feel they need to make their motorcycle so loud. Sometimes I wonder whether their hearing is going to be negatively affected by that much noise. I personally like Harley's because of how they sound, and how they look. They just look so darn awesome.........
 
I agree. Harley sound great in their stock exhaust, or especially w/a slightly modified exhaust, but they're just too annoying when they're run w/straight pipes. That isn't neccessary for them to sound good IMO.
 
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Rob1559 said:
I thought is was just a motorcycle. When people take it this serious I get worried. :lol:
Talk about some of the car's on this site and see what happens :shot:
 
Now this is a motorcycle.
Name it and the rider to win absolutely nothing.
I realize it is a small picture, good luck.
 

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Billy, I'm with you. I've done the same thing (just one bike, not the MM). When I read your story I was picturing myself on the street, keeping up with the guy while keeping safe distances and not endangering others.

I've heard so many stories here about 120+ mph public road driving that it surprises me to hear about concerns about 0-60's.
 
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Rob1559 said:
Now this is a motorcycle.
Name it and the rider to win absolutely nothing.
I realize it is a small picture, good luck.

Maybe it's the fact that I don't have a motorcycle yet, but I would be afraid to ride a motorcycle like that. When I finally get a motorcycle in the future, I would like it more as a cruiser to take leisurely cruises in the countryside, than to tear up the local streets. With a car, you at least have some measure of security in case you wreck, or some careless bastard hits you. However, on a bike, it's all you with just your flesh...........
 
I can appreciate both of your comments MapleLeaf and Junehhan even though they're quite different. Here's why. Having owned a motocross bike (a 250CC Yamaha YZ) and two street bikes(an 1100cc, and an 850cc) I look at it this way......... sure it's practicality as well as wisdom that you're speaking junehhan. However, the reality is that there are a number of the bikers who are deep down inside risk takers and thrill seekers. Is that wise? No. is it smart? Not really.

But it's kinda like the reason why some of the same type of people love roller coasters, hang gliding, or sky diving. There's a degree of danger, or atleast perceived danger. That's what the thrill seeker craves deep down inside. To them, if there isn't any risk at all, then the activity in question would be boring. Is boring safer? Yes. But boring isn't what most people really want, nor is it what they'll always be satisfied with.

That's the reality of it. Am I saying that driving in rush hour traffic at 80 MPH is justifiable or even acceptable? No way. The thrill seeker in us should be tempered w/wisdom, and patience in finding an activity weather it be behind the wheel of a car, riding a bike, or something else that's a controlled risk, or one that isn't such a long-shot. And ofcourse we all have to decide what is acceptable and what isn't, and exactly how far we will go w/our thrill seeking. Ofcourse one of the main things we need to consider first and foremost is how much the activity in question would put innocent bystanders at risk. We cannot allow ourselves to become like a bull in a china closet. Especially when the potential china in that closet is other peoples' health and well being.

But my point is that many might say that they wouldn't drive crazy while operating a motorcycle. However, take some of those same people who say that, and give them a 10 or 11 second motorcycle for a year or so, and many of those same people (especially guys)will gradually get crazier and crazier the longer they have control of that power, and the more they begin to master it. It can easily become like an adrenaline addiction (been there done that). Unfortunately it's human nature. Some people are more prone to that than others. Some are more effected and held back by fear(which isn't a bad thing) while others seem to thrive on that fear, and seek more of it. Does that make it such behaviour unavoidable? No. But it just means that many of us shouldn't be so quick to judge others who are also thrill seekers like we are too.

There are different degress of these types of behaviour, and it does get to a point w/some people of being out of control, and ofcourse our goal should be to avoid or prevent that from being evident in our behaviour. I think that it all boils down to having a balance. And not allowing the pendulum to swing all the way to one side(which would be too boring) or the other side(which would be too dangerous). The key is simply balance.
 
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LOL! I personally think i'm more of a cautious type of person, but my friends and family will swear that they think i'm getting way too radical and too much of a thrill seeker. I agree that a balance is definately important as well, since fear will help keep a thrill seeker in line. Like I said, it's probably because I havn't owned a motorcycle yet, so my opinions are likely to change when I finally get to a point in my life where I can also have one. The biggest problem for now, is that I probably couldn't fit on a crotch rocket type motorcycle :)
 
Just let me be clear on one thing though. Bikes are dangerous. there's no doubt about that. If you get in a fender bender w/your car, sure, it ruins your day, but it can be fixed. However, there are no fender benders w/bikes. And it's usually a leg or life that is lost.
 
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