Rear end may be dry

I'll definitely get it looked at when I do the gear swap. I have everything for the swap so far if I don't need anything else done. I just don't drive it much as I thought I would. So it sits but I will get it looked at when I take her in for the gear job. I know everyone is like "WTF get it done" for every problem they read here about marauders due to the love they have but it'll get done.

Did you go back OEM?

Yeah, I did, but I can upgrade to 31 spline axles relatively easily so stayed with OEM 28 spline for now. Had the clutch packs rebuilt at the same time so I'm good to go for awhile.

Definitely, if you're going to do a rear gear swap, then that would be the time to do the axle maintenance.
 
If there is no metal debris in the housing chances are he's OK but it's not hard to check especially with the cover already off!!

Mine made a real noticeable "Wump...Wump...Wump" noise that varied with speed!!

Good Luck!!
 
Yeah, I did, but I can upgrade to 31 spline axles relatively easily so stayed with OEM 28 spline for now. Had the clutch packs rebuilt at the same time so I'm good to go for awhile.

Definitely, if you're going to do a rear gear swap, then that would be the time to do the axle maintenance.

Exactly why I'm waiting to get it done then thanks for the info
 
If there is no metal debris in the housing chances are he's OK but it's not hard to check especially with the cover already off!!

Mine made a real noticeable "Wump...Wump...Wump" noise that varied with speed!!

Good Luck!!

Let the other guy tell it can't nothing be checked with he cover off.
But ok thanks for the info
 
Let the other guy tell it can't nothing be checked with he cover off.
But ok thanks for the info

Cover off is the first step. Then pull the cross shaft, remove the C-clips, rear brakes, remove the axles. Check axles and bearings.

Remove the carrier bearing caps, pull the carrier out. Check the carrier bearings.

Remove the pinion nut, pull the pinion gear out. Check the pinion bearing.

So, now that you have it all apart, you replace all the seals, bearings, crush sleeve, pinion nut, and axles. Extra credit for 31 spline axles and a new Ford limited slip to match.
 
Cover off is the first step. Then pull the cross shaft, remove the C-clips, rear brakes, remove the axles. Check axles and bearings.

Remove the carrier bearing caps, pull the carrier out. Check the carrier bearings.

Remove the pinion nut, pull the pinion gear out. Check the pinion bearing.

So, now that you have it all apart, you replace all the seals, bearings, crush sleeve, pinion nut, and axles. Extra credit for 31 spline axles and a new Ford limited slip to match.

Extra credit on the beak down. When time has come for the gear swap I'll replace all. Thanks again
 
Just jack up the back and see if there is play up and down with the tire. Mine and every one I have done had play, mine being the worst. Funnier yet, mine was the only one with zero leaks.


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Expert advice?

What can you check with only the cover off? Think about it for a moment. ...

Have your rearend shop do a proper teardown inspection of your axle, then rebuild it. You'll be glad you did. Or wait for it to leave you on the side of the road with extra damage.

Edit: the lack of a real inspection by the rear end shop is actually not a good sign. They should know better. Or did you tell them to do nothing beyond pull the cover?

You are out of line! gear lube contamination is easy to see, and an excellent primary clue for axle shaft (or bearing) wear. Cover removal is the first step to inspection, especially if shaft seals are not showing leakage.

It is a real inspection, and is a good sign. Finding a good mechanic and trusting him is important if you can't do the work yourself.

In a rebuild, never use a crush sleeve. Use a solid spacer. They are supplied as a shim kit. It makes future pinion seal or u-joint flange replacement much simpler, and the extra cost is insignificant.

As for the differential, forget about girly-man Kevlar clutch plates, or any clutch plates for that matter! Go with an Eaton Truetrac, and 31 spline axle shafts. No future worn plates, and no hassle with the pre-load spring removal if you ever need to remove the axle shafts.

Truetrac: http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/Products...utomotiveAftermarket/Differentials/PCT_221471
 
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You are out of line! gear lube contamination is easy to see, and an excellent primary clue for axle shaft (or bearing) wear. Cover removal is the first step to inspection, especially if shaft seals are not showing leakage.

It is a real inspection, and is a good sign. Finding a good mechanic and trusting him is important if you can't do the work yourself.

In a rebuild, never use a crush sleeve. Use a solid spacer. They are supplied as a shim kit. It makes future pinion seal or u-joint flange replacement much simpler, and the extra cost is insignificant.

As for the differential, forget about girly-man Kevlar clutch plates, or any clutch plates for that matter! Go with an Eaton Truetrac, and 31 spline axle shafts. No future worn plates, and no hassle with the pre-load spring removal if you ever need to remove the axle shafts.

Sometimes you can see metal, sometimes you can't. It's presence is a wear indicator, but absence of (visible) metal is not necessarily an all-clear. To some extent, a small amount of metal is actually normal in a gearbox or axle. It has some value as an indicator, but is not a definitive diagnosis. In the presence of other symptoms the OP has (noise, mileage) I say disassembly for inspection is warranted. This axle design's wear characteristics and life span are pretty well understood.

The solid spacer is reasonable enough.

As far as clutch type vs Torsen differential (Eaton True-trac) that is something of a personal preference. Both designs have their features.

The Torsen's obvious advantage is the lack of clutches with the associated wear and maintenance. Rather than describing the well-known Torsen characteristics I'll just post a link. To summarize, they behave as an open diff unless slippage activates their torque bias.

A clutch type applies torque to both wheels and tries to make them rotate at the same speed. This has some advantages in that it applies a stabilizing force to a car, especially while under acceleration. A clutch type differential has a characteristic feel and behavior from the drivers seat.

Given the age and mileage of most Marauders many people have had an opportunity to decide which style to install due to axle regular maintenance. You might think there would be more people that went the Torsen route, as they are comparable in price to a new Ford 31 spline limited slip and don't need the clutches replaced when they wear out.

But despite the added maintenance many still choose the clutch type, myself included. I like the way they put the power to the ground and stabilize the car under acceleration. Is it better than a Torsen? Not necessarily. It depends on what you do with the car, and how you want it to drive. Personal preference. And in another 5 - 7 years I'll have to change my clutches again . . .
 
Easiest thing for you to do is run your hand along the inside edge of your rear tires. If they feel "feathered" then thats the cause of your noise. Tire noise and bearing noise are very similar. If two separate mechanics suspect tires over rear diff then I'd say that's probably it.
 
Easiest thing for you to do is run your hand along the inside edge of your rear tires. If they feel "feathered" then thats the cause of your noise. Tire noise and bearing noise are very similar. If two separate mechanics suspect tires over rear diff then I'd say that's probably it.

While what you said almost makes sense, solid axles do not "feather" the tires.
 
Oh really? So I must have been imagining the several hundred feathered tires I've come across on a rear wheel drive vehicle at the ford dealership I work at.
Thanks for the correction.
 
While what you said almost makes sense, solid axles do not "feather" the tires.

:bs: My tires are feathered currently on my MM. And have seen hundreds of other cars, light duty trucks, medium and heavy duty trucks, and buses with feathered tires.
Curious as to where you heard that:dunno:
 
:bs: My tires are feathered currently on my MM. And have seen hundreds of other cars, light duty trucks, medium and heavy duty trucks, and buses with feathered tires.
Curious as to where you heard that:dunno:

Where's the "like" button
 
Oh really? So I must have been imagining the several hundred feathered tires I've come across on a rear wheel drive vehicle at the ford dealership I work at.
Thanks for the correction.

I have never seen them feathered on the rear of my own solid axle vehicles, or other people's vehicles I know. In fact, one of the primary benefits of tire rotation is to un-feather the inevitable imperfect wear on the front tires (our Marauders excepted of course). A solid axle, unless it is bent, has 0 toe and 0 camber so it is darn near impossible for it to screw up the tire wear.

However, since you have personally observed hundreds or thousands of feathered tires on the rear I'll bow to your vast experience.
 
I have never seen them feathered on the rear of my own solid axle vehicles, or other people's vehicles I know. In fact, one of the primary benefits of tire rotation is to un-feather the inevitable imperfect wear on the front tires (our Marauders excepted of course). A solid axle, unless it is bent, has 0 toe and 0 camber so it is darn near impossible for it to screw up the tire wear.

However, since you have personally observed hundreds or thousands of feathered tires on the rear I'll bow to your vast experience.

You'd be surprised how far off of 0 degrees solid axle cars come right from factory.
I'm not asking you to bow but I have seen enough to no that it definitely happens. :beer:
 
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