Sticky: Difference between a 2003 300A and a 300B

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Regarding the Canadian models that remained there...Is there any major differences between them aside from the Traction Control and of course the Speedo being in Kilometers as well as the ODO?

Also is it worth swapping the gauge cluster to the US version?
 
Nitrox said:
Regarding the Canadian models that remained there...Is there any major differences between them aside from the Traction Control and of course the Speedo being in Kilometers as well as the ODO?

Also is it worth swapping the gauge cluster to the US version?
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Yeah, all the Canuck models are 300 EHs....;)
 
At MV10 I believe I have found another difference in the 300A vs the 300B...While looking at my own 300A I noticed that I only have one belt diagram on my emissions label. Its part number is 3U5A-19A286-BB. It shows the Marauder diagram and that is it. Only two other cars at the show that I saw had this...any ideas????
 
Hi Everyone, I'm delighted to announce That I have finally purchased a modern Marauder. Got it a couple weeks ago.It was originally sold out ofTheif River Falls Minnesota on january second 2003.I'm guessing the last 6 numbers of the vin tell the story...mine are632287. I have the full size spare ;the tint windsheild ;map pockets in doors and seatbacks;long ceiling console;inside fuel and trunk release;web/net at back of trunk;6disc cd changer in trunk;anti lockbrakes,but no mention of traction control
Final assembly was in Saint Thomas, and bottom right of window stickerhas this code:
2H141 N RC 2X 330 000814 08 14 02
If any of this info helps Great! if any of you can tell me what it means Super !! I hope to make this my first Supercharged car unless I get my 429 powered 55 F350 done first.
Sorry for my pathetic one finger typing . I finally own a Mercury after all these years of Fords Lincolns and orphan makes and I'm Gonna Cruio-o-oze up and down this road.
Iwanted to come to Marauderville 10 'but had to drive a truck for beet harvest so you all could put sugar in yer coffee!Happy Motoring...Coaltrain
 
Coaltrain said:
Thanks fer the underwhelming response
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Probably would have gotten more response in a thread of its own rather than 14 pages and 205 posts back in a Sticky thread on tech differences in models.

You've got a 2003 300A Marauder built 14 August 2002. Full VIN should be 2MEHM75V73X632287. The "7" is the check digit. Yours might differ. The last 6 digits only place you in the sequence. The rest of the VIN tells the story. Congrats !!! and Welcome :welcome1: to the MM.Net.

2ME = Ford Motor Company of Canada
H = Selts belts and air bags, curtains or canopies
M75 = Mercury Grand Marquis (changed to M79 in 2004 for its own "Marauder" model)
V = 4.6L 302 HP DOHC V8 (distinguishes it from other MGMs)
7 = Check digit (varies randomly)
3 = 2003 model year
X = St. Thomas Assembly Plant (STAP)
632287 = SEQUENCE CODE (not necessarily build sequence since they didn't come off the line in VIN order)
 
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Thanks fer the heads up and acknowledgement Blurauder! Yeah i thought i was expecting a little much after that last post .I am really enjoying my car and so are my deceased gearhead friend's two high school age boys.I've had fast cars and shiny cars but its been almost thirty years since i had both in the same car. I really enjoy your posts and your car is awesome! I woulda gone blue if one was available ,but I'm happy to have saved this one from mouldering in a quonset.Keep the shiny side up! Coaltrain
 
So are there different stall torque convertors between the 03-04's?

If so what are the part numbers?
 
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Curless said:
At MV10 I believe I have found another difference in the 300A vs the 300B...While looking at my own 300A I noticed that I only have one belt diagram on my emissions label. Its part number is 3U5A-19A286-BB. It shows the Marauder diagram and that is it. Only two other cars at the show that I saw had this...any ideas????
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were the other 2 cars 300A or 300B ?

My 300A has both diagrams and i am #1844
 
DOOM said:
Ok so I guess nobody knows.
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Looking at post #33 from SergntMac has the info your looking for

here is a copy of it

My 300A had heated mirrors, came on with the rear defogger.

Traction control and heated seats were promised as stock Marauder features in '03, but did not appear until the 300B production. They are stock features in '04.

Ummm...My HVBoM reports for both my '03 300A and '03 300B say...

All '03 Marauders have the 4R70W tranny, P/N 2W3P-7000-AA.
All '03 Marauders have a 2800 stall 11.25" TC, tranny part number
PKECF.
All '04 Marauders have a 2800 stall 11.25" TC, tranny part number
PKE3H.

Both versions of this tranny for the Marauder features a brazed turbine/impeller, 1" one-way clutch and gear set from the 5.4L 2V F-150. The '04 4RW75 version added the improvements listed about by Drock, i.e. teflon seals, needle bearings ect. No change in Torque convertor performance reported.

Ford reports stall speeds as engine/model specific, and written as a range, from light throttle/coasting to WOT total maximum efficiency.

Pre-'03 CV 4.6L 2V engine...2094 to 2440 RPM
Pre '03 CV/PI 4.6L 2V engine...2319-2750 RPM
'03-'04 Marauder/Mach I 4.6L 4V...2555-3011 RPM
'03-'04 CV-GM 4.6L 2V...2031-2374 RPM
All '03 and up CV/PI 4.6L 2V...2372-2808 RPM

That's what my book says. Now a note on what my Dealership parts guy says. He says that I cannot order a factory torque convertor brand new. That piece comes new only with a complete and brand new tranny assembly. You can buy a reman, and they sometimes buy Ford, and sometimes buy locally, depending on who's paying the bill. Local is a lot cheaper.

Engine code for the '03 300A is 3G-120-AA, PN 3W1Z-8052-AA, black valve covers, single knock sensor.
Engine code for the '03 300B is 3G-120-AB, PN 3W1Z-8052-AA, black valve covers, single knock sensor. Four catch codes, I don't remember the first. It was short lived, but followed by BMDO, CRD0 and CRD1.
Engine code for the '04 300A is 4G-120-AA, P/N unknown, unpainted valve covers and dual knock sensors. Catch code for all is MAV2

I now drive a 300B, it has an underhood light, and I have map pockets.*

Hope this helps, carry on gents.





*I installed the map pockets myself, can't live without them.
 
Not 8052?

DWSTANG67 said:
... Engine code for the '03 300A is 3G-120-AA, PN 3W1Z-8052-AA, black valve covers, single knock sensor.
Engine code for the '03 300B is 3G-120-AB, PN 3W1Z-8052-AA, ...
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"-8000-" basic parts numbers would be radiator/cooling system numbers. engine numbers are in the 6000 series, so 3W1Z-6052-AA would probably be the engine assembly/long block part number.

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maineiac said:
My production # 7649
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Mine's 7,792, so both of ours were very late 2003 builds.

The theory I've heard on the full sized spares is that there were some leftovers in inventory and they were used up late in the run to "clean house" prior to start up of the 2004 models.
 
GreekGod said:
All Marauders have oil coolers.
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the HVBOM for the marauder I am looking at buying 698977 says
"LESS ENGINE OIL COOLER"

also has:
audiophile
cd changer
anti-spin tract brakes w/o IVD
manual parking brake release
cargo net
manual fuel release
engine compartment light
mini spare
heated seats
2003 job #2 program control
 
^ i dont see what relevent info that has there.

all of the ford modular engines have the same oil filter adapter gasket, which serves as the gasket for the oil filter adapter which is also the coolant inlet, ford designed it this way so that they could use 1 block design and use a different oil filter angle/location and water inlet angle/location to fit a specific car, so an f-150, e-150, mustang and crown vic may all have the same block, but each have a specific oil filter adapter so that the filter and water inlet are fitted for the specific engine bay.

this adapter alone is not an oil cooler, while oil and coolant both go through it, they are not put close enough to each other for the coolant to effectively cool the oil.

this is why on many f/e-150's there are coolant lines going down to a oil cooler situated on/near the oil filter adapter gasket, or why on crown vic police models, there are 2 oil lines going from the oil filter adapter gasket to an oil cooler situated on the lower radiator hoses.

I believe the oil filter adapter and lower radiator hose is the same for all 03-04 panthers, so it should be easy for either the factory or an owner to install the adapter from a CVPI with oil cooler lines, and cut the lower rad hose and install the cooler, hook it up and have a working oil cooler. I've never looked for one on a marauder so I cant say if the've ever had them.
 
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