The Fiscal Cliff -- 48 days and Counting

How will Congress deal with the Fiscal Cliff (1 January 2013)??

  • Go Over the Cliff, Do Nothing, Not enough Time to Fix

    Votes: 24 30.8%

  • Cut the "Big Deal", Massive Tax and Entitlement Reform

    Votes: 6 7.7%

  • Remove "Tax Cuts" from the Equation

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Buy More Time, Kick the Can Down the Road 6-12 Months

    Votes: 31 39.7%

  • Buy More Time but with Some Spending Cuts and Tax Increases

    Votes: 14 17.9%

  • Other, Please Specify in your Posted Remarks

    Votes: 3 3.8%
  • Total voters
    78
  • Poll closed .
Per USCG - "In the first nine hours after Katrina came
ashore, Air Station New Orleans helicopters rescued 137 people."
"8-31-05 1,259 rescued from roof tops".
http://www.uscg.mil/history/katrina/katrinaindex.asp

From the source you site - "...the deployment of a Vancouver heavy urban search and rescue team, which arrived in Lafayette, Louisiana on the evening of August 31, 2005, arriving on a WestJet Airlines aircraft. Due to security and logistics issues in the disaster area surrounding New Orleans, the team started operations on September 3, saving 30 people that day. They returned to Vancouver on September 6, reportedly saving over 110 people during their deployment."

Lafayette is 150 miles from New Orleans and was unaffected by Katrina. By the time your advance team arrived in Lafayette the USCG had already rescued 1,259 from roof tops. A private individual in a helicopter rescued my sister, a hospital worker, from the roof of a hospital at great risk to himself.
 
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sailsmen said:
I am not going to be silent while you post a BLATANT LIE that disparages the truly heroic acts of family, friends and thousands upon thousands of others as though it never happened.
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When did I post anything of the sort?

I posted Canadian troops were there September 2nd, and by FEMAs own timeline, they weren't there till the 4th.

What you choose to read into it beyond that is not my responsibility.
 
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Dr Caleb said:
When did I post anything of the sort?

I posted Canadian troops were there [in response to Hurrincane Katrina] September 2nd, and by FEMAs own timeline, they weren't there till the 4th.

What you choose to read into it beyond that is not my responsibility.
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Looks like our bretheren from the GWN have done it again:




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Dr Caleb said:
When did I post anything of the sort?

I posted Canadian troops were there September 2nd, and by FEMAs own timeline, they weren't there till the 4th.

What you choose to read into it beyond that is not my responsibility.
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BULL CRAP! That is not what you posted!
8-26-05 "Following the declaration of a state of emergency, federal troops were deployed to Louisiana to coordinate the planning of operations with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).[2] 922 Army National Guard and 8 Air National Guard are deployed." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Hurricane_Katrina

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............... We were the first on scene after katrina (even before your own governemnt).... .
 
You can post all you want about how GREAT Canada is but I am not going to be silent while you post LIES that disparage and minimize the heroic acts of thousands of our private citizens and our GOVERNMENT RESPONDERS.
Your post is insulting and belittles all those who sacrificed to rescue others as though none of it happened and Canada WAS FIRST TO RESPOND, LEADING THE WAY while all others were non-existant.
 
Well thread lasted much longer with a civil tone than expected, but once again we travel for their down the downward spiral.
Do we really need to bash on Canada, can we not respect that they love their country as much as we love ours

Respect gentlemen, it should be given as well as its received


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sailsmen said:
Originally Posted by dr caleb View Post
............... We were the first on scene after katrina (even before your own governemnt).... .
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The point is that Canada sent help. FEMA had their thumbs up their azz from the beginning. Mayor Nagin was useless throughout. Makes no difference who was there firstest with the mostest.

BTW -- Looks like Congress is leaning toward Option #5 Buy some Time but throw in some revenue increases (read taxes) and some budget cuts (read Defense). About 21% picked this probable course of action. Of course, there is always a chance that they will not do anything afterall.
 
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The point is that Canada sent help. FEMA had their thumbs up their azz from the beginning. Mayor Nagin was useless throughout. Makes no difference who was there firstest with the mostest.

BTW -- Looks like Congress is leaning toward Option #5 Buy some Time but throw in some revenue increases (read taxes) and some budget cuts (read Defense)
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It does look like number 5 will be the option. Which is only delaying the inevitable. At some point I think the Bush tax cuts will have to be rolled back.

I believe that even congress said at the time of passing the cuts, they aren't sustainable past the set timeline which is why the timeline was put in place.

But there is so much more to be negotiated, but I fear the stalemate will continue.


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No - his point is no one did anything so Canada rescued first and lead the way. Very insulting and disparaging
FEMA being the Federal Gov't will always be what it is, the 900lb Gorilla with it's thumb up its azz.
That is why in part every emergency plan has the State and Local Gov't First Responders as the First Responders.
As respects DC Gov't only cares about Gov't. There will be no reductions in current spending and there will continue to be tax increases and spending increases until complete collapse.
The Takers have out voted the Payers.
The sooner the better for all.
 
I don't suppose anyone wants to hear about big increases in voluntary taxes{sin taxes} or the America first fund?
 
kernie said:
I don't suppose anyone wants to hear about big increases in voluntary taxes{sin taxes} or the America first fund?
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You guys gonna start paying extra taxes for them boxes of Budweiser that get swilled down north of the border?

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SC Cheesehead said:
You guys gonna start paying extra taxes for them boxes of Budweiser that get swilled down north of the border?

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Ha! They re-named our entertainment center\hockey rink the Budweiser gardens, it was the John Labatt center, Labatt's was born in London. It ruffled a few feathers around here, 'what's an American brewery's name doing on our hockey rink!' Lol.

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kernie said:
SC Cheesehead said:
You guys gonna start paying extra taxes for them boxes of Budweiser that get swilled down north of the border?

;) ---------> :beer:

Ha! They re-named our entertainment center\hockey rink the Budweiser gardens, it was the John Labatt center, Labatt's was born in London. It ruffled a few feathers around here, 'what's an American brewery's name doing on our hockey rink!' Lol.

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What is Hockey? No season as of yet, this will cripple them to the point of going back to being televised on the outdoor life network again


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PonyUP said:
kernie said:
What is Hockey? No season as of yet, this will cripple them to the point of going back to being televised on the outdoor life network again


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They sure are shooting themselves in the foot, both sides. Of course us SAPS in leaf-nation are not missing much. :(

At least i have the Blue Jays to look forward to, they bought most of the Marlins! You ball fans in Miami must be pizzed!

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kernie said:
PonyUP said:
They sure are shooting themselves in the foot, both sides. Of course us SAPS in leaf-nation are not missing much. :(

At least i have the Blue Jays to look forward to, they bought most of the Marlins! You ball fans in Miami must be pizzed!

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I would think the Marlin fans would be used to it,2 massive sell offs in the last 12 years is pretty bad.

With the Arod debacle and Red Dox nation still reeling, could be good for the Jays


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kernie said:
PonyUP said:
They sure are shooting themselves in the foot, both sides. Of course us SAPS in leaf-nation are not missing much. :(

At least i have the Blue Jays to look forward to, they bought most of the Marlins! You ball fans in Miami must be pizzed!

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I want Mark Buehrle back damn it. :(


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It's all about the NFL now, fellas, and I'm feeling pretty good. Da Bears got an azz whoopin' last night, the 'Queenies are floundering back in third spot in the NFCN; who cares about some goofy "fiscal cliff" anyway, life is good in Titletown!!!

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SC Cheesehead said:
It's all about the NFL now, fellas, and I'm feeling pretty good. Da Bears got an azz whoopin' last night, the 'Queenies are floundering back in third spot in the NFCN; who cares about some goofy "fiscal cliff" anyway, life is good in Titletown!!!

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Well you still have to play the Bears once, and the Vikings twice, I wouldn't make more room in the trophy case just yet


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