Tornado Engine Thingy

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Hey-I just saw a commercial for the tornado on the Speed Channel. Ain't no way I'm gonna pay for one of those, but I had a thought; You suppose making one out of a Bud can or a Miller can would give me better results?
 
My preference is Killians but I've never seen it in a can. Ya know, if this deal works out I may have to drink a lot of beer :lol:
 
Silver_'04 said:
Hey-I just saw a commercial for the tornado on the Speed Channel. Ain't no way I'm gonna pay for one of those, but I had a thought; You suppose making one out of a Bud can or a Miller can would give me better results?
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Hay guys I hate to bust your bubble but I had one in my 2004 Mercury Grand Marq. and My 2003 Chevy Pick up and it made a difference in gas mileage and when I put the peddle to the floor. A small difference, but a difference. I took the one out of the Grand Marq. and put it in the Marauder ,I didn't notice much of a difference in the Marauder but I left it in thinking it can't hurt.
 
snake oil or beer?

I volunteer to help drink as many cans of beer as it takes for you to think you see an improvement. After the first case, we should be WELL on our way!

:D

john
 
It's out there!

Silver_'04 said:
My preference is Killians but I've never seen it in a can. Ya know, if this deal works out I may have to drink a lot of beer :lol:
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Yes, you can get Killians in a can... been there done that, a few times.
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TooManyFords said:
I volunteer to help drink as many cans of beer as it takes for you to think you see an improvement. After the first case, we should be WELL on our way!

:D

john
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I tested it ,you didn't, so drink as many cans of Beer as you need too, maybe your car will go faster that way !
 
Cobra25, this is all in fun! I never try to drink and drive but I sure will put down a few for the cause!

Maybe you did see an improvement. If so, that is fine! Remember, the only person you have to make happy is yourself, and if you are satisfied than it should be considered, "mission accomplished."

Personally, I'll wait for the dyno results and continue with the Miller Lite.

Cheers!

john
 
Dyno results on the web...

Ok, just so everyone knows, this dyno was NOT for a Marauder, but the guy did do the tests correctly.

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Here's what I found on the dyno. The data is uncorrected and smoothed (to avoid getting too many unbalancing peaks) to S=3 on dynojet's software. I made six passes on the dyno. Two with the Tornado unit installed followed by a 20 minute cooldown (with the engine idling) and two runs without the Tornado installed. Following yet another 20 minute cooldown with the engine idling I proceeded to make two more runs with the Tornado unit installed.

Run #1 w/Tornado: 145.1 HP, 147.3 lb-ft Run #2 w/Tornado: 145.3 HP, 146.7 lb-ft

Run #3 noTornado: 148.0 HP, 149.8 lb-ft Run #4 noTornado: 146.8 HP, 149.3 lb-ft

Run #5 w/Tornado: 145.6 HP, 148.8 lb-ft Run #6 w/Tornado: 146.3 HP, 148.4 lb-ft

As you can see from the above numbers, coming in "hot" from the street produced the lowest numbers. I did allow for about a 10-15 minute cooldown before hitting the dyno the first Time. So perhaps the second run wasn't surprising, with the car probably being a bit cooler. The third set of runs is what put the nail in the coffin when it comes to the Tornado. Although the third set was a bit improved over the first set, it was still visibly lower than the second of runs. (thanks to JTT)

Yet another snake oil automotive product.

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I agree. If the thing would add any milage or performance gain, don't you think the automakers would have one on every car? They don't because there is nothing to it. If you have one and decide it doesn't work, they make nice desk paperweights!

John
 
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Cobra25 said:
Hay guys I hate to bust your bubble but I had one in my 2004 Mercury Grand Marq. and My 2003 Chevy Pick up and it made a difference in gas mileage and when I put the peddle to the floor. A small difference, but a difference. I took the one out of the Grand Marq. and put it in the Marauder ,I didn't notice much of a difference in the Marauder but I left it in thinking it can't hurt.[/QUOTE

Possibly the improvement was more noticed in another car because the MM has a very GOOD air flow path Stock, It is Your money and Your Car so if it feels good to YOU go for it. I will not spend the money but THAT is my money and My Marauder. :beer: :beer:
Would love to Drink a few Cans of Fosters and discuss the benefits.

Joe Clancy
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It was nice of you to do a Dyno on the Tornado, And I hope your pleased with your results, and if it made you happy, that's a good thing. Every car is different and some things work on some car's well and not on others . WE could argue back and forth about this what good would it do. I bought the Tornado for My 2004 Mercury Grand Marq.and it worked well in it,sold that car , bought a Marauder , it fit so I put it in. The air flow in the Marauder is different, Thats all ,no hard feeling's.
 
I've got the plan-once daily activities are over at MVII, we'll all sit around with our favorite beer, shoot the breeze and make ourselves some tornados out of the empty cans. I can see it now-MVII Beer Garden and Performance Corner.

Killians in a can?!-I gotta get to the store tonight!

jfclancy-you got me thinkin' again; a Fosters oil can might be the best to use because it has the largest diameter-probably a better match for our intakes. I'll do some quick flow calculations.
 
Cobra25 said:
It was nice of you to do a Dyno on the Tornado, And I hope your pleased with your results, and if it made you happy, that's a good thing.
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Your "tornado," is a spring shower.
Cobra25 said:
Every car is different and some things work on some car's well and not on others.
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Yes sir, I agree. I agree when we're talking about water pumps, oil pans, headers, manifolds, starters, fuses, and lots of other things that should be compatabile from Ford to Ford. This "tornado" is BS, you got suckered, just deal with it. There isn't one of us here that hasn't fallen for a sales pitch on something somewhere, from superchargers to diodes, we all bit on something, yes?
Cobra25 said:
We could argue back and forth about this what good would it do.
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No, we can not, and we will not. We won't argue back and forth because your "tornado" dosen't do sh*t. It's not an argument when one side of the argument has no merit. "Is nitrous N/A, or, not?" is an argument we can and have entertained, because nitrous has merit on it's own. Your "tornado" has no standing, period. It's a joke on consumers everywhere, and this should be the last post in this thread, K?
Cobra25 said:
Thats all, no hard feeling's.
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Not at all, my friend...Right?
 
SergntMac said:
Yes sir, I agree. I agree when we're talking about water pumps, oil pans, headers, manifolds, starters, fuses, and lots of other things that should be compatabile from Ford to Ford. This "tornado" is BS, you got suckered, just deal with it. There isn't one of us here that hasn't fallen for a sales pitch on something somewhere, from superchargers to diodes, we all bit on something, yes?
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Hey-I don't think I fall for any sort of sales pitch. Now where did I put that clapper?

Well, this thread was meant in good fun, but it imploded. Just have to try again later.

Some of you better be putting some beer away with me at MVII though :)

Chris
 
Sorry, Mac but I have to disagree on a point. There are some circumstances where the tornado could have an indirect effect on performance. Not for to the normal reasons we consider but think about this. The MAF functions can vary based on whether the air flowing through it is laminar or turbulent. This can be affected by obstructions both before and after the MAF sensor. Adding this obstruction before the MAF sensor could cause a false reading which could then be interpreted by the PCM to adjust the fuel. Just a thought.
 
FordNut said:
Sorry, Mac but I have to disagree on a point. There are some circumstances where the tornado could have an indirect effect on performance. Not for to the normal reasons we consider but think about this. The MAF functions can vary based on whether the air flowing through it is laminar or turbulent. This can be affected by obstructions both before and after the MAF sensor. Adding this obstruction before the MAF sensor could cause a false reading which could then be interpreted by the PCM to adjust the fuel. Just a thought.
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Nahaa...But, thanks for the invite.

Y A W N s t r e t c h hafta go now. You'll figure it all out, I'm sure...Someday.
 
See...you boys were "tusslin" in here while I was having some grins with the kiddies in the deleted thread....:nono:
 
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