Type of wire use for Big 3 Upgrade??

[Da Dark Jedi]

Since alot of people are upgrading to the big three, what brand are you using?

I found these guys any thoughts??

http://www.knukonceptz.com/images/kitreview/WCG_Power.jpg

 

[bigdhasmoney]

If you want cheap 0 gauge. Go with DB link on amazon. I think i got 50 feet of blue 0 gauge for like 80 bucks. Which thats a steal! But with wire its really you get what you pay for. You can spend 4 bucks a foot for pure 100 percent oxygen free copper wire or copper clad aluminum wire. but the cheapest i found was this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QU8M8Q/ref=oh_o02_s00_i00_details The price went up a little.

 

[jwibbity]

i would not suggest getting copper clad alluminum, more resistive and heats up quicker, meaning less current through wire, i will use nothing but knukonceptz wire because they meet or exceed american standardized AWG rating, i would suggest knukonceptz kollosus flex wire, got it in my wifes sonata, no issues

http://www.knukonceptz.com/productMaster.cfm?category=Kolossus%20Fleks%20Kable

 

[Da Dark Jedi]

I had to look into my notes from years gone-by so here's another question. Crimping or Soldering the connection? This comment I would like to know.

Soldering battery connections is a BAD idea. Most people believe that soldering is superior to crimping, but this is not the case. Soldering creates additional resistance at the connection, as well as creating a connection with less current transfer capability. Also, soldering will create its own corrosion due to the inherent flux material.

True or False???

 

[fastblackmerc]

I had to look into my notes from years gone-by so here's another question. Crimping or Soldering the connection? This comment I would like to know.

Soldering battery connections is a BAD idea. Most people believe that soldering is superior to crimping, but this is not the case. Soldering creates additional resistance at the connection, as well as creating a connection with less current transfer capability. Also, soldering will create its own corrosion due to the inherent flux material.

True or False???

False................

Just look at all the soldered electrical connections in a computer.....

 

[bigdhasmoney]

hmmm I would also like to see what peoples opinions are. I soldered my ring terminals on. But i never really thought of that comment^^^

 

[Da Dark Jedi]

False................

Just look at all the soldered electrical connections in a computer.....

But thats a 5v supply on digital equipment. I think the cables (on cars) alone are 2 gauge. So did you solder or crimp for your Big 3 upgrade.

 

[fastblackmerc]

But thats a 5v supply on digital equipment. I think the cables (on cars) alone are 2 gauge. So did you solder or crimp for your Big 3 upgrade.

Soldered to copper lugs. Heat shrink tube over the connections.

 

[ctrlraven]

If you solder it's best to use a Rosin-Core type solder, it cleans the wire as it bonds to it. I will not use anything but Rosin-Core when I am working on client's vehicles.

I believe the factory power/ground wires are 6 gauge, so going to 4, 2 or 0 will have some improvement, the bigger you go the better.

Searched up db link wire on ebay... Same retailer on Amazon is selling this on ebay for cheaper.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Db-Link-Pw0...ultDomain_0&hash=item3cc1b53981#ht_1369wt_942

 

[Da Dark Jedi]

So are you guys Crimping or Soldering the big 3 at the connection point???

 

[bigdhasmoney]

Soldering!

 

[bigdhasmoney]

with rosin cor solder like ctrlraven said

 

[marauder410]

you can do eithier one whatever floats your boat im sure crimping them will be just fine soldering them wont do no difference just more of a chance there connectors are not gonna come loose on you crimping after a couple years or so one connector might winggle loose

 

[marauder410]

im acualy gonna try these to make everything easier than got crimping and soldering and gonna look cleaner than both

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310225100356?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

[lifespeed]

crimp vs solder

Aircraft electrical connections aren't soldered because under certain conditions, when not strain-relieved, vibration can cause cracking of the wire at the rigid solder joint. Weight is probably an issue too.

That said, precautions that apply on aircraft are not always applicable to cars. I always solder, but don't run the solder down the wire past the connector creating a long, rigid, 'stick'. Rosin core solder is fine, you can clean it with alcohol. You'll have zero corrosion issues at the wire/terminal interface using solder.

What is a "Big 3 Upgrade"? Heavier gauge battery wires? Trunking the battery?

 

[EMAS]

You want SGX (extra thick cross-linked polyethylene)insulation on the wire, cross-linked polyethylene is the insulation currently recommended by SAE standards for under hood use. Don't upgrade the size of the wire while downgrading the insulation. http://kayjayco.com/tech125CWire.htm

Solder the connections with rosin core solder, much more reliable and better continuity over the long run.

 

[thathotrodlincn]

I crimp, then solder with rosin core solder then cover with marine grade heat shrink tubing. I use marine grade wire.

 

[Da Dark Jedi]

I crimp, then solder with rosin core solder then cover with marine grade heat shrink tubing. I use marine grade wire.

Where can you purchase Marine grade heat shrink tubing from.

 

[Da Dark Jedi]

You want SGX (extra thick cross-linked polyethylene)insulation on the wire, cross-linked polyethylene is the insulation currently recommended by SAE standards for under hood use. Don't upgrade the size of the wire while downgrading the insulation. http://kayjayco.com/tech125CWire.htm

Solder the connections with rosin core solder, much more reliable and better continuity over the long run.

Thanks for the link VERY INFORMATIVE.

 

[boatmangc]

If I were to solder I would only used tinned wire, much better wicking.
I use a crimper for all of my big stuff, I own a monster crimper as I install hundreds of feet of battery cable every month, I only use tinned wire, it is much better in my (marine) environment.
http://www.amazon.com/Ancor-702040-...3EW0/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1328317877&sr=8-8