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Thanks for that link, sailsmen!

"When a reform government was elected in 1984, it identified three problems: too much spending, too much taxing and too much government"

Beginning, middle, and end of the biggest problem facing civilized, freedom loving societies today.
 
Maybe i'm jumping on late, but what kind of credibility does a paper like the LA Times have? That paper is probably one of the most biased and furthest to the left on the political spectrum than hardly any other paper out there. Hitchhiker, as far as this goes, what kind of backwards place are you from? With some of those comments you make, are you calling a bunch of us white trash? I find this humerous, but liberal social elitists like yourself seem to be more interested in calling people names, and saying all manner of inappropriate things against them instead of doing what real civilized people do. I thought this thread was pretty civilized for a political thread till you came along and turned it into a nasty 4th grade level argument. BTW, what in the hell are you, some sort of politic police on this forum? Anytime a political thread seems to pop up, you seem to have some sort of critisicm about it like we are too frickin dumb to hold a civilized conversation. In your post, I have seen nothing more than a bunch of name calling and nasty stereotyping instead of logical debate. Go ahead and call someone a fat-cat not knowing a single DAMN thing about their life at all. A lot of successful people became successful because they worked their frickin asses off. You obviously don't know these people, and yet you spew all manner of invective against them. If you plan on critisizing and calling someone a name, I think it's time that you justify it with facts.
 
junehhan said:
Maybe i'm jumping on late, but what kind of credibility does a paper like the LA Times have? That paper is probably one of the most biased and furthest to the left on the political spectrum than hardly any other paper out there. Hitchhiker, as far as this goes, what kind of backwards place are you from? With some of those comments you make, are you calling a bunch of us white trash? I find this humerous, but liberal social elitists like yourself seem to be more interested in calling people names, and saying all manner of inappropriate things against them instead of doing what real civilized people do. I thought this thread was pretty civilized for a political thread till you came along and turned it into a nasty 4th grade level argument. BTW, what in the hell are you, some sort of politic police on this forum? Anytime a political thread seems to pop up, you seem to have some sort of critisicm about it like we are too frickin dumb to hold a civilized conversation. In your post, I have seen nothing more than a bunch of name calling and nasty stereotyping instead of logical debate. Go ahead and call someone a fat-cat not knowing a single DAMN thing about their life at all. A lot of successful people became successful because they worked their frickin asses off. You obviously don't know these people, and yet you spew all manner of invective against them. If you plan on critisizing and calling someone a name, I think it's time that you justify it with facts.
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You guys are doin way to much thinkin here.

About being watched, who gives a crap, if your not doing anything wrong their's nothin to worry about, and if you think your being watched, I say give 'em something to watch. :rasta: :rasta: :bandit:
 
That was well said Junehan. That was good!


Now I don't want everything to go to a Brave New World the government knows what you do where you go when and what kind of coke cans you buy. I mean, for the sake of all things great and small it's a waste of GOOD taxpayer money and a lot of people don't need to be watched anyway. But I'm not going to run around wearing an aluminum hat waving a sign causing mass hysteria over it.
 
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junehhan said:
Maybe i'm jumping on late, but what kind of credibility does a paper like the LA Times have? That paper is probably one of the most biased and furthest to the left on the political spectrum than hardly any other paper out there. Hitchhiker, as far as this goes, what kind of backwards place are you from? With some of those comments you make, are you calling a bunch of us white trash? I find this humerous, but liberal social elitists like yourself seem to be more interested in calling people names, and saying all manner of inappropriate things against them instead of doing what real civilized people do. I thought this thread was pretty civilized for a political thread till you came along and turned it into a nasty 4th grade level argument. BTW, what in the hell are you, some sort of politic police on this forum? Anytime a political thread seems to pop up, you seem to have some sort of critisicm about it like we are too frickin dumb to hold a civilized conversation. In your post, I have seen nothing more than a bunch of name calling and nasty stereotyping instead of logical debate. Go ahead and call someone a fat-cat not knowing a single DAMN thing about their life at all. A lot of successful people became successful because they worked their frickin asses off. You obviously don't know these people, and yet you spew all manner of invective against them. If you plan on critisizing and calling someone a name, I think it's time that you justify it with facts.
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Junehhan must have just discovered this thread and thinks that bashing me will alter the truth about George W. Bush.

This is funny!

I am not a liberal. I am a Republican calling George Bush et al. the lying thieves and false patriots that they actually are!

Shall I assume that you are nothing more than a dupe of the neocons?

Hypocrites like Newt Gingritch, etc.

I am a Republican in the tradition of Reagan, bless his soul, not the thieving neocons like Bush who are driving this country into ruin.

It's too bad that you (Junehhan) can't think for himself and has to resort to attacking me to vent his frustrations.

As for Junehhan's recent cheerleaders in today's posts to this thread. You are mostly quite young and are mostly just parroting the opinions of your parents.

When you begin working in the real world instead of just living off of Daddy
you will have more appreciation for those who's lives are being ruined by the neocons sending out jobs to China, India, and elsewhere; and by the wholesale transfer of debt to the middle class while raiding the United States Tresury for themselves.

When this bunch of Halliburtonesque thieves are out of office, I will again embrace my Rebublican roots.

How many Billion will they (Bush et al.) steal before we get them out?

Best Regards,

David
 
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woaface said:
That was well said Junehan. That was good!


Now I don't want everything to go to a Brave New World the government knows what you do where you go when and what kind of coke cans you buy. I mean, for the sake of all things great and small it's a waste of GOOD taxpayer money and a lot of people don't need to be watched anyway. But I'm not going to run around wearing an aluminum hat waving a sign causing mass hysteria over it.
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Sad!

:shake:

Think for yourself James!

Best Regards,

David
 
Thanks for the info. and insight on an important, hopefully bipartisan, issue, particularly the article by MM, and the pt./counterpoint by Rookie1. CJH
 
I'm not the one critisizing other people here. What I however am doing, is exposing you for the hypocrit and social elitist snob that you are making yourself out to be. You keep calling people thieves and false patriots, but let's see some evidence to back up your claim? I'm not the one here claiming a conspiracy here, and you my friend, are the one who needs to defend your baseless accusations IMHO. Face it, there are some people that are more or less known as "RINO's." These are people who are more or less republicans in name only, who use the title to try to belong, but share no ideals or views with them. Like I said, this reply only represents the shallow-ness of your character as I tried to expose something you've been doing for a long time, and now you go to your traditional ways of attacking people who expose your hypocritic ideals. Pretty original, by trying to say I don't think for myself, since I guess according to how you think, I must be too dumb to think for myself. Oh yeah, and pretty original for attacking some of the younger members of this forum like they are too young to be able to think for themself. According to you, they must be too dumb or something to have an independant thought process.

Oh, and while you are on your high horse of arrogance pretending to be socially elite to everyone else, many of us here live in the real world, and work in the REAL frickin world dude. I'm still a student, but I have worked some of the crummiest labor jobs out there and still hold a real job to get through school, and pay for my Marauder, and to pay to maintain MY Marauder, and to pay for other costs, and to pay to insure in Marauder. Don't tell me that I don't live in the real ****ing world, or that I can't ****ing think for myself. You also state all of these accusations and don't quote any facts to prove them. What you fail to realize is that many of these issues go a lot deeper than what you seem to think. I have sat by watching you spew baseless accusations against other individuals on this forum like Sherriff without posting any facts, so I say either frickin PUT UP, or SHUT the **** up. I'm not the one spewing accusations at everything here, and when you accuse someone of doing something, you need to support it with facts, because talk is cheap.
hitchhiker said:
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Junehhan must have just discovered this thread and thinks that basking me will alter the truth about George W. Bush.

This is funny!

I am not a liberal. I am a Republican calling George Bush et al. the lying thieves and false patriots that they actually are!

Shall I assume that you are nothing more than a dupe of the neocons?

Hypocrites like Newt Gingritch, etc.

I am a Republican in the tradition of Reagan, bless his soul, not the thieving neocons like Bush who are driving this country into ruin.

It's too bad that you (Junehhan) can't think for himself and has to resort to attacking me to vent his frustrations.

As for Junehhan's recent cheerleaders in today's posts to this thread. You are mostly quite young and are mostly just parroting the opinions of your parents.

When you begin working in the real world instead of just living off of Daddy
you will have more appreciation for those who's lives are being ruined by the neocons sending out jobs to China, India, and elsewhere; and by the wholesale transfer of debt to the middle class while raiding the United States Tresury for themselves.

When this bunch of Halliburtonesque thieves are out of office, I will again embrace my Rebublican roots.

How many Billion will they (Bush et al.) steal before we get them out?

Best Regards,

David
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junehhan said:
I'm not the one critisizing other people here. What I however am doing, is exposing you for the hypocrit and social elitist snob that you are making yourself out to be. You keep calling people thieves and false patriots, but let's see some evidence to back up your claim? I'm not the one here claiming a conspiracy here, and you my friend, are the one who needs to defend your baseless accusations IMHO. Face it, there are some people that are more or less known as "RINO's." These are people who are more or less republicans in name only, who use the title to try to belong, but share no ideals or views with them. Like I said, this reply only represents the shallow-ness of your character as I tried to expose something you've been doing for a long time, and now you go to your traditional ways of attacking people who expose your hypocritic ideals. Pretty original, by trying to say I don't think for myself, since I guess according to how you think, I must be too dumb to think for myself. Oh yeah, and pretty original for attacking some of the younger members of this forum like they are too young to be able to think for themself. According to you, they must be too dumb or something to have an independant thought process.

Oh, and while you are on your high horse of arrogance pretending to be socially elite to everyone else, many of us here live in the real world, and work in the REAL frickin world dude. I'm still a student, but I have worked some of the crummiest labor jobs out there and still hold a real job to get through school, and pay for my Marauder, and to pay to maintain MY Marauder, and to pay for other costs, and to pay to insure in Marauder. Don't tell me that I don't live in the real ****ing world, or that I can't ****ing think for myself. You also state all of these accusations and don't quote any facts to prove them. What you fail to realize is that many of these issues go a lot deeper than what you seem to think. I have sat by watching you spew baseless accusations against other individuals on this forum like Sherriff without posting any facts, so I say either frickin PUT UP, or SHUT the **** up. I'm not the one spewing accusations at everything here, and when you accuse someone of doing something, you need to support it with facts, because talk is cheap.
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I'd give you a up, but I might not be thinking independantly.:D:rock:
 
woaface said:
I'd give you a up, but I might not be thinking independantly.:D:rock:
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James remember if you don't flow with the masses your wrong :rolleyes: , we can't have anyone voicing their opinions if they have not been preapproved.

Oh and James you are being watched by Kathy and myself and everyone eles here who cares about you. Keep up the good work. :up:

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I'd give you a up, but I might not be thinking independantly.
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I'll do it for you then James. Junehhan nice reply :up:
 
junehhan said:
I'm not the one critisizing other people here. What I however am doing, is exposing you for the hypocrit and social elitist snob that you are making yourself out to be. You keep calling people thieves and false patriots, but let's see some evidence to back up your claim? I'm not the one here claiming a conspiracy here, and you my friend, are the one who needs to defend your baseless accusations IMHO. Face it, there are some people that are more or less known as "RINO's." These are people who are more or less republicans in name only, who use the title to try to belong, but share no ideals or views with them. Like I said, this reply only represents the shallow-ness of your character as I tried to expose something you've been doing for a long time, and now you go to your traditional ways of attacking people who expose your hypocritic ideals. Pretty original, by trying to say I don't think for myself, since I guess according to how you think, I must be too dumb to think for myself. Oh yeah, and pretty original for attacking some of the younger members of this forum like they are too young to be able to think for themself. According to you, they must be too dumb or something to have an independant thought process.

Oh, and while you are on your high horse of arrogance pretending to be socially elite to everyone else, many of us here live in the real world, and work in the REAL frickin world dude. I'm still a student, but I have worked some of the crummiest labor jobs out there and still hold a real job to get through school, and pay for my Marauder, and to pay to maintain MY Marauder, and to pay for other costs, and to pay to insure in Marauder. Don't tell me that I don't live in the real ****ing world, or that I can't ****ing think for myself. You also state all of these accusations and don't quote any facts to prove them. What you fail to realize is that many of these issues go a lot deeper than what you seem to think. I have sat by watching you spew baseless accusations against other individuals on this forum like Sherriff without posting any facts, so I say either frickin PUT UP, or SHUT the **** up. I'm not the one spewing accusations at everything here, and when you accuse someone of doing something, you need to support it with facts, because talk is cheap.
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:bs: in the extreme!

Your slip is showing Junehhan!

:nono:

For all we know you could be Sherriff!

He (possibly you) has distinquished himself on several sites, NOT!

You really shouldn't call other people hypocrites when you so clearly demonstrate what it is to be one with your own actions. If you really feel a compelling need to have the last word, you will because I am no longer going
to dignify this thread with more posts. This thread is political in nature and should not be here. I did not start it, I merely put in my bit.

If you think that shouting the same chourus as the rest of the sheep who have had the wool pulled over their eyes by George 'the traitor' W. Bush then
knock yourself out. I guess you 'Bushies' take great comfort in reassuring yourselves that being part of a pack, albeit mis-informed, somehow makes you right!

You even have the audacity to speak of RINO's as if you are the arbiter or true Republicanism. Your are truely a legend in your own mind!
:lol:

I am a Republican in the tradition of Goldwater and Reagan, not a delusional Bush supporter - Big difference!

Like I said before, If you listen you can hear the Bushie-Halliburton-Enron-Tyco folks wheeling the gold out of our tresury right now! Very Sad!

The best part is that despite you and yours, The truth will still be out there!
:up:

Best Regards,

David
 
Again, you are assuming what I am without even knowing who I am yet. You have not met with me, and you have certainly not talked over the phone with me, yet you pretend to know what my political affiliation is. I am true democrat in the old school style who has gotten tired of the BS that has engulfed the party. However, I now consider myself an independant if you really care to know. I'm tired of a political party that has reversed itself on everything they used to be known for. Instead of fighting against the status quo, it has become a party tha protects the status quot. Instead of fighting for the rights of real hard working people, they don't seem to care for that anymore as their ideals have changed in the "types" of people they feel they need to protect. Once being champions of freedom of speech, this group seems more interested in restricting freedom of speech unless your opinion coincides with theirs. However buddy, that is more about me than you really need to know. Now you are calling me delusional! I don't know how to respond to that, but it appears that instead of providing pure hard facts, you are going back to name calling. Anyone who is a Bush supporter must happen to be wacked, and delusional according to you, huh? To use your own words, since when did you become the arbitrer that decides who is delusional or not? If I support someone, they will have to have earned my trust and confidence before I decide to give them my vote. Of course, you probably think that i'm too delusional to make sound decisions for myself. Fat cat, neo-con or not, this is one president that has done more in his 3 years, than certain presidents did in their 8 years, unless you consider their extra-marital scandels to be part of their daily work routine. Whether you agree with what our president has done or not, one thing you can agree is that things got done instead of sitting around in stalemate.

BTW, nice job thinking that I might be Sherriff. I have exposed you for being a nasty person to a good individual on the forum, a person who happens to be a good voice for common sense, a person who you have spewed baseless accusations against, and now you are saying that me and him are the same person. One thing you will find out about me, is that i'm a fair person, and I DO NOT sit by while some individuals slander innocent people with no facts to prove that this individual did. Oh, and for a person that seems to act like the politics police on this forum, you sure have a lot to contribute in a controversial manner. There are other ways to add in your opinion of a matter without calling people dumb, delusional, or assuming they are white trash who drink bottles of ole number 7(whatever in the hell that is), and who **** their sisters. The way you entered yourself into this debate, is how you set yourself up buddy. If you would have entered like a civilized person instead of like a 4th grader, then this debate would still have been civilized like it was before you jumped in. I've got news for you buddy, you don't know most of the people here, and while I don't know myself, I don't think anyone here ****s their sister and many will find statements like that highly offensive.

hitchhiker said:
:bs: in the extreme!

Your slip is showing Junehhan!

:nono:

For all we know you could be Sherriff!

He (possibly you) has distinquished himself on several sites, NOT!

You really shouldn't call other people hypocrites when you so clearly demonstrate what it is to be one with your own actions. If you really feel a compelling need to have the last word, you will because I am no longer going
to dignify this thread with more posts. This thread is political in nature and should not be here. I did not start it, I merely put in my bit.

If you think that shouting the same chourus as the rest of the sheep who have had the wool pulled over their eyes by George 'the traitor' W. Bush then
knock yourself out. I guess you 'Bushies' take great comfort in reassuring yourselves that being part of a pack, albeit mis-informed, somehow makes you right!

You even have the audacity to speak of RINO's as if you are the arbiter or true Republicanism. Your are truely a legend in your own mind!
:lol:

I am a Republican in the tradition of Goldwater and Reagan, not a delusional Bush supporter - Big difference!

Like I said before, If you listen you can hear the Bushie-Halliburton-Enron-Tyco folks wheeling the gold out of our tresury right now! Very Sad!

The best part is that despite you and yours, The truth will still be out there!
:up:

Best Regards,

David
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Haggis said:
James remember if you don't flow with the masses your wrong :rolleyes: , we can't have anyone voicing their opinions if they have not been preapproved.

Oh and James you are being watched by Kathy and myself and everyone eles here who cares about you. Keep up the good work. :up:



I'll do it for you then James. Junehhan nice reply :up:
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Why thank ya Gordon! And Kathy, and everyone else:D Hey I'm almost to the 2,000 post mark.:eek: I'm all growing up!
 
junehhan said:
Again, you are assuming what I am without even knowing who I am yet. You have not met with me, and you have certainly not talked over the phone with me, yet you pretend to know what my political affiliation is. I am true democrat in the old school style who has gotten tired of the BS that has engulfed the party. However, I now consider myself an independant if you really care to know. I'm tired of a political party that has reversed itself on everything they used to be known for. Instead of fighting against the status quo, it has become a party tha protects the status quot. Instead of fighting for the rights of real hard working people, they don't seem to care for that anymore as their ideals have changed in the "types" of people they feel they need to protect. Once being champions of freedom of speech, this group seems more interested in restricting freedom of speech unless your opinion coincides with theirs. However buddy, that is more about me than you really need to know. Now you are calling me delusional! I don't know how to respond to that, but it appears that instead of providing pure hard facts, you are going back to name calling. Anyone who is a Bush supporter must happen to be wacked, and delusional according to you, huh? To use your own words, since when did you become the arbitrer that decides who is delusional or not? If I support someone, they will have to have earned my trust and confidence before I decide to give them my vote. Of course, you probably think that i'm too delusional to make sound decisions for myself. Fat cat, neo-con or not, this is one president that has done more in his 3 years, than certain presidents did in their 8 years, unless you consider their extra-marital scandels to be part of their daily work routine. Whether you agree with what our president has done or not, one thing you can agree is that things got done instead of sitting around in stalemate.

BTW, nice job thinking that I might be Sherriff. I have exposed you for being a nasty person to a good individual on the forum, a person who happens to be a good voice for common sense, a person who you have spewed baseless accusations against, and now you are saying that me and him are the same person. One thing you will find out about me, is that i'm a fair person, and I DO NOT sit by while some individuals slander innocent people with no facts to prove that this individual did. Oh, and for a person that seems to act like the politics police on this forum, you sure have a lot to contribute in a controversial manner. There are other ways to add in your opinion of a matter without calling people dumb, delusional, or assuming they are white trash who drink bottles of ole number 7(whatever in the hell that is), and who **** their sisters. The way you entered yourself into this debate, is how you set yourself up buddy. If you would have entered like a civilized person instead of like a 4th grader, then this debate would still have been civilized like it was before you jumped in. I've got news for you buddy, you don't know most of the people here, and while I don't know myself, I don't think anyone here ****s their sister and many will find statements like that highly offensive.
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There you go again...:bounce: Jumping up and down!


You have not exposed anything Junehhan other than yourself!

:lol:

Remember, You initiated the current dialogue.

This dialogue has gone way too far.

Stop trying to analyse me and focus on yourself.

I am sure that all on this site will appreciate it!

I hope you find peace with yourself soon.

Best Regards,

David
 
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