What did you do to your car today?
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Invective
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Found out today the two remaining local 93 E0 retailers no longer do. In recent weeks they switched over to 90 E0 with the Lake Norman marine retailer telling me that 93 E0 was no longer being made?!?! Made a few phone calls to stations still retailing 93 E0 NW of Charlotte and got the name of their distributor out of Hickory. The distributor informed me that 93 E0 is indeed still available and they get theirs from a supplier in Virginia by truck. Closest 93 E0 retailer to me is now in Maiden, NC, 28 miles away.
Themarauderguy
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Watched christine. Then i drove my own christine/marauder!
fastblackmerc
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Why don't you want to run any ethanol?
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An odd comment.
I don't have time to overload MM.net's servers and get banned for accidentally crashing the site. Only one potentially 'upside' and it's debatable. The 'global warming' organized crime syndicate state that ethanol burns cleaner, which it does UNTIL you examine the pollution and energy expended in the production of moonshine-hooch-ethanol.
Recalling these figures from a few years back when they were openly published, not so anymore.
$5 per gallon to manufacture
3 Gallons of water consumed for each gallon manufactured
BTUs much less than pure gasoline
Ethanol production drives up the cost of food
Damage to engines not designed for it
Shorter shelf life.
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Upsides? Increased octane? Give me 93 'pure gas' without the moonshine mix please.
From 2017:
The Drawbacks of Ethanol: Food Versus Industry
Ethanol and other biofuels are often promoted as clean and lower cost alternatives to gasoline, but the production and use of ethanol is not all positive. The major debate about corn and soy-based biofuels is the amount of land that the production takes away from food production, but also in that industrial corn and soy farming is harmful to the environment in a different way.
Growing corn for ethanol involves the use of large amounts of synthetic fertilizer and herbicide, and corn production, in general, is a frequent source of nutrient and sediment pollution; also, the typical practices of industrial versus commercial and local food farmers are considered more environmentally hazardous.
The challenge of growing enough crops to meet the demands of ethanol and biodiesel production is significant and, some say, insurmountable. According to some authorities, producing enough biofuels to enable their widespread adoption could mean converting most of the world’s remaining forests and open spaces to farmland — a sacrifice few people would be willing to make.
“Replacing only five percent of the nation’s diesel consumption with biodiesel would require diverting approximately 60 percent of today’s soy crops to biodiesel production,” says Matthew Brown, an energy consultant and former energy program director at the National Conference of State Legislatures.
In a 2005 study, Cornell University researcher David Pimental factored in the energy needed to grow crops and convert them to biofuels and concluded that producing ethanol from corn required 29 percent more energy than ethanol is capable of generating.
http://www.kosu.org/post/pros-and-cons-buying-gas-or-without-ethanol
I don't have time to overload MM.net's servers and get banned for accidentally crashing the site. Only one potentially 'upside' and it's debatable. The 'global warming' organized crime syndicate state that ethanol burns cleaner, which it does UNTIL you examine the pollution and energy expended in the production of moonshine-hooch-ethanol.
Recalling these figures from a few years back when they were openly published, not so anymore.
$5 per gallon to manufacture
3 Gallons of water consumed for each gallon manufactured
BTUs much less than pure gasoline
Ethanol production drives up the cost of food
Damage to engines not designed for it
Shorter shelf life.
***************
Upsides? Increased octane? Give me 93 'pure gas' without the moonshine mix please.
From 2017:
The Drawbacks of Ethanol: Food Versus Industry
Ethanol and other biofuels are often promoted as clean and lower cost alternatives to gasoline, but the production and use of ethanol is not all positive. The major debate about corn and soy-based biofuels is the amount of land that the production takes away from food production, but also in that industrial corn and soy farming is harmful to the environment in a different way.
Growing corn for ethanol involves the use of large amounts of synthetic fertilizer and herbicide, and corn production, in general, is a frequent source of nutrient and sediment pollution; also, the typical practices of industrial versus commercial and local food farmers are considered more environmentally hazardous.
The challenge of growing enough crops to meet the demands of ethanol and biodiesel production is significant and, some say, insurmountable. According to some authorities, producing enough biofuels to enable their widespread adoption could mean converting most of the world’s remaining forests and open spaces to farmland — a sacrifice few people would be willing to make.
“Replacing only five percent of the nation’s diesel consumption with biodiesel would require diverting approximately 60 percent of today’s soy crops to biodiesel production,” says Matthew Brown, an energy consultant and former energy program director at the National Conference of State Legislatures.
In a 2005 study, Cornell University researcher David Pimental factored in the energy needed to grow crops and convert them to biofuels and concluded that producing ethanol from corn required 29 percent more energy than ethanol is capable of generating.
http://www.kosu.org/post/pros-and-cons-buying-gas-or-without-ethanol
fastblackmerc
Everything Marauder, LEDs & HI
Understand, but how much more pollutants will you be putting into the environment on your 56 mile round trip? How much is that diesel-engined truck emitting on it's trip down from Va.?
I have an issue with electric cars... where do you think the electricity comes from to recharge your batteries?
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MyBlackBeasts
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Beyond the colossal scam that ethanol is, it causes gas engines to run like sh !t and get terrible mpg.
My 97 Tbird would stall at stops with a/c on, switched to the non-eth grade and ran like a champ and gained 5mpg. Ended up being cheaper in long run to use higher cost fuel.
By me every station that offers 3 fuel grades the premium is 0-eth "recreational fuel" and worth every penny of the price difference.
I do not, and from what I remember reading the Gen 2s (and more than likely the Gen 3s) were a bit more difficult getting to work in a stand alone form.
But with time they will start showing up in junkyards and being that ford put them in the F150 their will be plenty. There is just too much potential in them for people not to find a way to run them. Although I'm more into the Gen 5 LT engines, the Gen 3 coyotes with a a10 behind it are badass and there is know denying that.
Grimrepairman
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Got my garage torch bottles exchanged today. If it keeps raining, will get my broken manifold studs out and finally put my gd trans in. Spent the whole summer fixing other ppls *****. Anyone else have a garage that is literally a dust factory?
Zim Hosein
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Grimrepairman
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I can't decide which is worse the dust on the car inside, or the sht from the trees outside. Can't wash everything fast enough.
Zim Hosein
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Got her annual NYS Safety and Emissions inspection completed, another $37.00 spent. 
MyBlackBeasts
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Last weekend prepped salvage yard replacement part
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Installed
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Thursday night completed Por-15 coating and some spray paint work
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MyBlackBeasts
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Almost done. Just have to adjust bumper tomorrow, wheels on and out the door!
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MyBlackBeasts
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No, not mine. Exactly the same even year but a 2wd V6 version of my 4wd V8 F150.
Belongs to my personal charity. He had a stroke in 2005 and is on SSD.
I wouldn't have done this job except it had gotten so bad the core support body mounts were floating so the front of the truck was not supported on the frame and woulds flex up and down when driving.
I keep this thing running so he can get to Dr appts and grocery store. When the truck dies, he's screwed...