3 Great years and more to come...

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Not long from the start I could see where the train wreck was headed. Some of it was visible under the surface on this side and shouldn’t have been a surprise. Some of it was not.

Personally I have never had any real beef with anyone on this board. Still don’t. I’ve met a lot of really great people and had a lot of fun. 3 years ago I never thought I would see the day I would plan my vacation time around a car.

I’ll be the first to say once I saw the direction the board was headed I turned into a troll. To Joe Walsh, My apologies. Calling your post lame in the manner I did was way out of line. If you go to your grave holding that against me I won’t blame you. That goes for everyone else as well. Right now I’m as disgusted with myself as much or more than anything else that happened over there.

To those that wanted to be able to voice your opinion without moderation all I have to say is be careful what you wish for.

Now to pick up the pieces. Will things go back to the way they were before? Most of us can forgive, but can we forget? Only time will tell. Some will remain with MM.net, some won’t. It’s up to each and every one of us affected to look inside ourselves and ask the hard questions.
 
teamrope said:
Not long from the start I could see where the train wreck was headed. Some of it was visible under the surface on this side and shouldn’t have been a surprise. Some of it was not.

Personally I have never had any real beef with anyone on this board. Still don’t. I’ve met a lot of really great people and had a lot of fun. 3 years ago I never thought I would see the day I would plan my vacation time around a car.

I’ll be the first to say once I saw the direction the board was headed I turned into a troll. To Joe Walsh, My apologies. Calling your post lame in the manner I did was way out of line. If you go to your grave holding that against me I won’t blame you. That goes for everyone else as well. Right now I’m as disgusted with myself as much or more than anything else that happened over there.
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Absolutley NO apology necessary....I thought that your post was funny and my response/next post was totally facetious. Nothing to worry about.
I love being able to joke around with fellow members on this site...it makes my day when I read a funny post and get a good belly laugh.

P.S. I'd rather defer that 'grave' thing as long as possible.... :D
 
teamrope said:
Will things go back to the way they were before? Most of us can forgive, but can we forget? Only time will tell. Some will remain with MM.net, some won’t. It’s up to each and every one of us affected to look inside ourselves and ask the hard questions.
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I say it'll probably go back to very much the same as it was. There were personality clashes before and they will remain. There were differences of opinion between different "clicks" and that will always be the case with a group as large and diverse as ours. Some feelings were hurt and some folks feel like they were setup, but we're all adults and if the DS is the worst thing that has happened to ANY of us I would be surprised.

But this thread seems to be like the "LAST POST" thread and just keeps going and going and going...
 
Joe Walsh said:
Absolutley NO apology necessary....I thought that your post was funny and my response/next post was totally facetious. Nothing to worry about.
I love being able to joke around with fellow members on this site...it makes my day when I read a funny post and get a good belly laugh.

P.S. I'd rather defer that 'grave' thing as long as possible.... :D
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I'm glad to hear that because that was how it was intended. :)

I did like the B(o)(o)bie thread. Logan made a darn fine pastie IMHO. :D
 
mercman said:
Just to let the membership know, I only visited the alternate site 2 times, once at its inception and once to watch it shut down. Anything that was said over there I did not want to know about, it is important to not color my moderating by comments made elswhere. I recieved many e-mails about this little experiment as every moderator did, but I want to let you folks know that everyone as of this moment has a clean slate, please don't grab the chalk and mark it up. The choice is yours :up:
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Really Dan....I think there are a few members here that may not believe that, I know I don't. I wish it was true, but this lack of sincerity is what will contribute to this site just not being what it was.
 
Billy G,

Very well said. I was a Darkside poster, mainly for the Boobies (that is not a bad word is it?) but somethings needed to be aired. And if you notice..the air was thinning and it was settling down. I hate to see the darker side go but if it is for the betterment of man kind and this wonderful site, then let the darkside go back to the dark side of he mon from whince it came.

Big House


BillyGman said:
Here's my take..... Logan and his moderators are under no obligation to explain anything to anyone, and I fully agree that this is NOT a democracy, nor should any online board be a democracy. I was a moderator on a board for a year, and that board wasn't a democracy either. There are things about how this board is run, and about how some of the rules are enforced that I don't particularly agree with. But that doesn't matter, because it isn't my board, and I choose to be here of my own free will. Niether Logan nor any of his moderators are forcing me to stay.


Let me also explain that despite certain things that I don't agree with here, overall this is a great board for Marauder owners, and I've gained a lot of helpful and fantastic knowledge about my Marauder by being a member here. Had it not been for this board, my Marauder would still be a 15 second car rather than a 12 second car like it presently is.

Having explained all of that, I also want to say that I don't believe that this "experiment" proved much of anything. Again, let me make it clear that Logan is under no obligation to any of us to prove anything. He's started up and maintained the most informative board on the internet about Marauders. I'm merely pointing out that this so called "experiment" was anything but objective. It wasn't exactly what you would call a "double blind" study. :)

Right or wrong, all the moderator bashing that took place on that other board would NOT have been there if there really weren't any mods to begin with. Sure there weren't any mods over there (I mean moderators), but since that board wasn't really anything else than an extension of this board, then in essence, what we had over there was merely part of this board. Does that mean that I'm saying that no mods are needed? Not at all. I'm simply pointing out that we started out with some rather strict rules (meaning over here), and then for merely a couple days, we went to entirely the other extreme. So ofcourse that would open the flood gates, and even invite people to lash out.

So the stage for all types of brutal comedian type posts was set. As well as for posts about dissatisfied customers too who were never previously allowed to voice their veiwpoints about certain issues. All of the frustrations and dissappointments of some members that took years to be built up during the lifespan of this board here, were suddenly allowed to be unleashed all at once over at that other board. So ofcourse it was chaotic. How would it be otherwise? And to let such a board exist only for a couple days is not any realistic proof that such a board would be that way always, or that it would continue to get worse and worse had it been allowed to remain on the net.

There would've been a point where people would've gotten certain things out of their system, and where the attempts at humorous posts laced with four letter words would have gotten real old, and therefore would've tapered off atleast to some extent. It wouldn't have completely stopped all together, but it would NOT have remained as it was with the same intensity that it was. So I don't think that this so called "experiment" proved much of anything since it's entire premise wasn't even serious nor realistic. And not having any rules nor mods to enforce them at all is simply the other extreme of what this board is. So we've seen two extremes IMO. Neither one is realistic. However that doesn't change the fact that this is one seriously beneficial board overall to it's members (myself included) and that's what has kept me here.

I've tried to be as honest as possible with this post. No phoney sugar coating, and no disrespect intended. Just my plain opinion and viewpoint. If you don't agree, then that's your perogative to disagree if you so choose.
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East Bound Travelling Man...

That is a very old set of tools you have displayed...

You have mail.:beer:
 
This thread has run it's course, thanks for the comments both positive and otherwise.

If someone still has something to say, feel free to start a thread new thread in the community or lounge forums.
 
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