Proven HP Combination's N/A

musclemerc

musclemerc

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N/A Horsepower Thread

I've reached out to a few member's for their input on what mod's they did to get their dyno proven number's. This is a list of the information I have compiled. Most or these combination's consist of just bolt on's but a couple of guy's went a step further and had custom parts added in.
All of the MM's are N/A

*top 5 horsepower and/or torque are highlighted in red*

TAF: 242HP/261TQ *Stock MM*

Bone stock MM 2500mi.

Breeze: 242HP/259TQ *Stock MM*

Flowmaster super 40's


Fordnut: *365HP/369TQ* *Highest -BBS-HP/TQ*

*5.3L Big Bore Stroker*
Heads: Ported/combustion chambers cleaned up/oversize valves/oversize hardened seats/hardened guides/ceramic coated chambers, valve's head's, and exhaust ports/teflon coated valve stems,cam caps,cam saddles/drilled out oil return holes/Cryo treatments/REM micro-polished followers/Comp beehive springs/Comp Extreme 258 series grind #106260, 222/224 duration, 475int/450ext lift

Bottom end: Cryo treatment & REM polishing on Kellogg forged stroker crank/Pauter cross-beam rifle-drilled billet rods/longer rods with raised wristpins/CP 9.5:1 forged pistons with ceramic & teflon coatings/teflon coated bearing inserts/cryo-REM treated cam gears and chains/billet crank trigger ring/Melling oil pump with billet gears/windage tray/main girdle/ARP rod bolts,cam bolts, main studs & head studs/60 lb injectors/CPR fuel rails/ twin Cobra fuel pumps
Denso IT20 plugs
Plasma booster ignition module
Metco CF intake tube
K&N conical filter and heat shield *MM kit*
90mm MAF
BBK 62mm TB
Steeda UDP's *crank pully only*
Electric WP
180* T stat
PHP 3/8" intake spacer
Ported & Polished U/L intake's *TB matched*
EGR flow restrictor
FRPP 4:10's
PI 2800 stall
Reinhart/ Art Carr transmission kit
Kook's LT's
Bassani 2.5" X pipe
Magnaflow high flow cat's
Edelbrock RPM muffler's
Custom dyno tune

Joe Walsh: *325HP/340TQ* *Highest-BB-HP/Torque*

*Forged 5.0 big bore*
Crower cams
Crower springs
+1mm Stainless valves
PHP 3/8" intake spacer
extrude honed intake *TB matched*
Metco CF intake tube
K&N 9" conical filter
Custom cold air box
C&L 80mm MAF
Accufab 60mm TB
Meziere electric WP
Steeda UDP *crank pully only*
Plasma booster ignition module
Kook's LT's
Kook's 2.5" X pipe
Magnaflow high flow cat's
Magnaflow muffler's
Art Carr high stall TC
Level 10 shift kit
B&M trans cooler w/electric fan
Custom dyno tune

dohc324ci: *317HP/357TQ*

*Big Bore Stroker -MMR Street Mod 850-*
FRPP BOSS 5.0 iron block
10.5:1 cr Manley pistons
MMR 4340 rods
MMR stroker assembly with ARP head/main studs
MMR Stage 3 p&p heads
MMR stainless steel valves
FRPP GT40 cams
Comp cam springs
MMR Ported intake
PHP intake spacer
FRPP GT40 fuel pump
FRPP 39lb injectors
JLT CAI
SCT BA 3000
MMR racing oil pump
MMR Windage tray

Impalaslayer: *306HP*/295TQ *Highest HP with stock engine*

Nazty PSRI (ported short runner intake) *TB matched*
Steeda UDP's
PHP 3/8" intake spacer
Accufab 62mm TB
90mm MAF with 80mm stock cartridge
GMS COP connector's
NGK TR6IX plug's
EMP mechanical WP
3500 stall
Kook's LT's
Aero muffler's
FRPP 4:10's
Custom dyno tune

Fordnut: *303HP/318TQ* *Highest TQ on a stock engine*

Denso IT20 plugs
Plasma booster ignition module
Metco CF intake tube
K&N conical filter and heat shield *MM kit*
90mm MAF
BBK 62mm TB
Steeda UDP's *crank pully only*
Electric WP
180* T stat
PHP 3/8" intake spacer
Ported & Polished U/L intake's *TB matched*
EGR flow restrictor
FRPP 4:10's
PI 2800 stall
Reinhart/ Art Carr transmission kit
Kook's LT's
Bassani 2.5" X pipe
Magnaflow high flow cat's
Edelbrock RPM muffler's
Custom dyno tune

Maryland: 302HP/*318TQ*

K&N CAI
180* T stat
1 step colder plugs
Steeda UDP's
PHP 3/8" intake spacer
PHP- Stage II ported and polished U/L intake's
Kook's LT's
Kook's 2.5" X pipe
Magnaflow muffler's
2.5" Axle back's
FRPP 4:10's
Custom dyno tune

Paul T. Casey: 300HP/315TQ

Steeda UDP's
90mm MAF with the stock 80mm cartridge installed
JLT CAI
180* Stat
1 step colder plugs
Custom 1" Phenolic spacer
Custom 2" TB spacer
Port & Polished U/L intake
Kook's LT's
Kook's 2.5" X pipe
Magnaflow high flow cat's
Magnaflow muffler's
Custom dyno tune

kmastl: 294HP/307TQ

K&N CAI
Steeda UDP'S
Kook's LT's
J-Mod
Custom dyno tune

Blackened300A: 293HP/312TQ

Metco Carbon-Fiber Intake tube
PHP CAI
Naz PSRI (ported short runner intake) *TB matched*
Accufab 60mm TB
PHP Intake 3/8" intake spacer
Steeda UDP's
180* T-Stat
Denso IT-20 Plugs
Granatelli COP connectors
Cherry Bomb Vortex Mufflers
J-Mod Shift Kit
Stallion T/C 3000 stall
FRPP 4:10's
Custom dyno tune

Blackbeauty2: 293HP/308TQ

K&N CAI
NGK TR6 plugs
180* T stat
PHP 3/8" intake spacer
Steeda UDP's
Kook's LT's
2.5" X pipe
2.5" full exhaust *no cat's*
FRPP 4:10's
Custom dyno tune

2,4shofast: 292HP/284TQ

Steeda UDP's
JLT CAI
180* T stat
1 step colder plug's
PHP 3/8" intake spacer
Meziere electric WP
Kook's LT's
High flow cat's
Magnaflow muffler's
Custom dyno tune

TAF: 290HP/316TQ

180* T stat
1 step colder plugs
Steeda UDP's
Stock Cobra manifolds
Magnaflow 2.5" X pipe
Magnaflow high flow cat's
Magnaflow muffler's
FRPP 4:10's
Custom dyno tune

Glenn: 289HP/310TQ

K&N CAI
Steeda UDP's
FRPP Shorty header's
Magnaflow 2.5" X pipe
Magnaflow high flow cat's
FRPP 4:10's
Custom dyno tune

Go2GuyFL: 284HP/298TQ---2003MM

K&N CAI
Kook's LT's
Kook's 2.5" X pipe
Aero 2525 muffler's
Reinhart tune

Crouse: 283HP/295TQ

JLT Cold Air Intake
Granatelli COP Connectors
Steeda UDP's
Stewart EMP W/P
PHP Intake Spacer
Custom 2-1/2" midpipe w/ H-Pipe
MagnaFlow 94066 Catalytic Converters
MagnaFlow 11256 Mufflers
FFRP 4:10 Gears
Custom dyno tune

ctrlraven: Zack Tune V1.0 282HP/313TQ----DR Tune277HP/309TQ
*Best-on the cheap*

JLT CAI *no heat shield*
PHP 3/8" intake spacer
GMS COP connector's
NGK TR6IX plug's
PI 3500 stall
Deleted rear cat's
Flowmaster super 40 muffler's

Go2GuyFL: 278HP/288TQ---2004 MM

K&N CAI
Kook's LT's
Kook's 2.5" X pipe
Aero 2525 muffler's
Reinhart tune


4drcbra: 274HP/302TQ

Anderson 4" CAI
Custom 2.5" mid pipe
Deleted rear cat's
Magnaflow muffler's
Custom dyno tune

Anonymous Member: :eek: 464HP/425TQ :eek: *Dyno link*

Ported & polished head's W/intake & exhaust gasket's "matched" (work done on a color die flow bench)
FRPP cam's
FRPP valves
FRPP guide's
FRPP springs
Ported/polished/force blasted U&L intake
Water injected intake system w/3 nozzle's
PHP 3/8" intake spacer
60lb injector's
Dual GT fuel pump's
90mm MAF
K&N CAI
SW LT's
SW high flow cat's
Custom dyno tune
 
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I will edit this list as other's PM me their information.

If you have a N/A mod's list and dyno proven number's please PM me your info

P.S. I will only include HP mods, suspension, cooling, and non HP mod's do not apply
 
Thanks for the thread. EVERYONE Please use the sig and garage.

So many ask for help with out listing their mods and yes we have had people who do not own a Panther ask for help w/o telling us that little bit of info!
 
hey T, i duno if you wanted to post this here or not but here is the dyno chart from before and after the UD pulleys without any tuning.

i can delete this after you post it in the OP

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303 rwhp, 318 rwtq
Electric Water pump (+10 hp)
180 degree 'stat
Underdrive crank pulley (+10 hp)
PHP intake spacer
Ported lower intake manifold (not short runner)
Ported, polished upper intake manifold, port matched to TB
BBK twin 62mm TB
Metco CF intake tube (larger than OEM, larger than K&N, smooth bends)
90 mm MAF
K&N conical filter & shield from K&N CAI kit
EGR flow restrictor
Denso IT20 plugs
Plasma booster
Kooks headers to custom setup: 2-1/2" pipe, Magnaflow cats, Bassani x-pipe, Edelbrock RPM mufflers, stock 2-1/4" system after mufflers, stock tips (+22 hp with headers and cats, the rest had already been upgraded and dyno tested)

With the following drivetrain mods it turned 13.3 in the 1/4
PI Stallion 2800 stall torque converter (helped with quicker revving and 1/4 mile times, not with peak power)
Reinhart/Art Carr transmission kit (much better 1/4 mile and street performance, no change on dyno)
4.10 gears
Dynotech MMC driveshaft (4.10 gears caused higher driveshaft speed which caused trans tailshaft leaks, the dynotech shaft fixed it)

365.4 rwhp, 368.9 rwtq
All of the above PLUS 5.3L BB/S built out the wazoo:
Heads: Ported, combustion chambers cleaned up, oversize valves, oversize hardened seats, hardened guides, ceramic coated chambers/valve heads/exhaust ports, teflon coated valve stems/cam caps/cam saddles, drilled out oil return holes, Cryo treatments, REM micro-polished followers, Comp beehive springs, Comp Extreme 258 series grind #106260, 222/224 duration, 475/450 lift
Bottom end: Cryo treatment and REM polishing on Kellogg forged stroker crank and Pauter cross-beam rifle-drilled billet rods, longer rods with raised wristpins in CP 9.5:1 forged pistons with ceramic and teflon coatings, teflon coated bearing inserts, cryo-REM treated cam gears and chains, billet crank trigger ring, Melling oil pump with billet gears, windage tray, main girdle, ARP rod bolts, cam bolts, main studs & head studs, plus 60 lb injectors, CPR fuel rails, and twin Cobra fuel pumps
 
No problem Dave, you actually bring up a good point. This does'nt apply to just a dyno tune it also applies to dyno run's. If you have a complete list of your N/A mod's and have dyno run result's I also want that info. Specifically I want someone with Lidio's, Zack's, & DR's tune. Martyo recently had an open house and I know some of the CAM member's recently had dyno run's too. I need your results! Please PM me....
 
Good job! This is what I've been looking for. All the Pony sites have em. This is good to see. I should be able to post my new dyno numbers in the next few weeks. ;)
 
Oh, Yeah... This is the list you want to be on. BTW these are the guy's I'd like to eventually hear from:
Blackened300a----When you get the engine done
Fastblackmerc
Babbage
tjl006----When your done with the Aluminator
dohc324ci----When your done with everything
RacerX----When your done with everything
 
My dyno sheet from the initial tune after engine installation.
Blue pull is on OEM computer tune.
Red pull is with final dyno tune.

Couple of notes:
I had finished installing the engine the night before leaving for MV3/Woodward Dream cruise.
I scheduled and stopped by Kaufmann's shop (in Dillsburg, Pa.) the next morning on our way out to MV3/WDC.
Engine had, maybe 150 miles on it when we "took the whip" to her!
That's how to break in an engine!
I know, I know....never take a long road trip after doing major mods to your car. I was worried, but we didn't have a hiccup on the entire trip!
Even got to annihilate a group of 3 Retard Ricers in Ohio!

Note: I had the Marauder re-dynoed with more miles on the engine and she layed down 324.5 RWHP. This dyno sheet shows 317 RWHP.
I'll try to find and scan that dyno sheet.
With this engine, I am 'out of fuel pump' until I get a BAP or install the Ford GT pump that I have.
The tune I have is not perfect because my OEM fuel pump was maxed out around 6100 rpm.

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The dyno tune made all the diffrence in taking advantage of your mods Joe. Those TQ number's are just impressive to say the least. Thanks for posting the dyno sheet.
 
i just realized something. i had more tq with out LTs, the naz intake, emp and a few others. that nazi intake must have really effed it up.
 
It's that old school way of hot rodding working against you Dave. The PSRI got you great HP number's but gave up alot of torque. That's why on my list of part's to run 12's included the PRSI and a shorty setup. Just to get the lost torque back.
Remember the old carb'ed intake's were all long runner? The stocker's back then were all short runner


FYI: The question's Dave have right now are the intent of this thread. It's a HP comparison of a specific list of mod's. I had a member PM me that my list maybe about bragging right's and that's not the intent. It's intended to show gains from specific combination's and also to serve as a "mirror" for other member's that want to reach your gain's that have been posted
 
If we are just trying to be Dyno Queens, this thread performs.

If we are trying to show how *fast* our cars are, then this thread fails. Why? Because no two dyno's will reproduce the same numbers for the same car.

I was going to suggest using the dragstrip method of calculating HP, but not everyone has slicks or even drag radials. Even different drivers can get different numbers out of the same car at the same track, the same day.

I could post my dyno sheet, but it reads really low because my car is *not* a dyno queen. With a 75 shot spray it showed a peak of about 500HP to the wheels, but when I run my numbers through the 1/4 mile calculator, it says my car made 618.72. No excuses, no couch racing. That was the last verified pass for the car a year ago. 11.47 @ 120.25 with a total weight of 4640. Does it make more than the dyno showed? Yes. Can I prove it? Only with my time slips.
 
TooManyFords said:
If we are just trying to be Dyno Queens, this thread performs.

If we are trying to show how *fast* our cars are, then this thread fails. Why? Because no two dyno's will reproduce the same numbers for the same car.

I was going to suggest using the dragstrip method of calculating HP, but not everyone has slicks or even drag radials. Even different drivers can get different numbers out of the same car at the same track, the same day.

I could post my dyno sheet, but it reads really low because my car is *not* a dyno queen. With a 75 shot spray it showed a peak of about 500HP to the wheels, but when I run my numbers through the 1/4 mile calculator, it says my car made 618.72. No excuses, no couch racing. That was the last verified pass for the car a year ago. 11.47 @ 120.25 with a total weight of 4640. Does it make more than the dyno showed? Yes. Can I prove it? Only with my time slips.
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I agree with what you are saying, but, as you pointed out...even 1/4 mile slips can be deceiving and inconsistent.
Trap speed somewhat offsets the spinning tire, poor 60 foot runs.
The best that we can do is post dyno numbers and timeslips.
According to my timeslip, I'm putting 385 HP to the rear wheels.
That's 60 more HP than I dynoed...I like the 385 HP number better, it's more impressive, but my dyno sheet shows 325 RWHP.

The thread does serve its' intent to have a centralized listing of variously modded N/A Marauders and their accompanying dyno numbers.
 
Maybe the word *fail* was a bit strong. I still say without standardization it is nothing more than another LOOK AT ME thread.
:P

With that in mind...



LOOK AT ME!


LOL!
 
im thinking about getting mine RE-dynoed, my HP was still climbing but hit my rev limit because of my smaller tires. problem fixed, but i think these tires are alittle taller than stock now but need to head back and get my ideal numbers....musclemerc, you've got mail!
 
TooManyFords said:
Maybe the word *fail* was a bit strong. I still say without standardization it is nothing more than another LOOK AT ME thread.
:P
With that in mind...

LOOK AT ME!
LOL!
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True, one thing we discussed way back in the early days of MM.net was the huge difference seen on the same car when a Dynojet dyno is used vs a Mustang dyno.

edit: All of my dyno numbers are on a Dynojet and are SAE ratings, which corrects for temperature and elevation. I hope all of the other numbers are also SAE. Some tuners and dyno shops give you a printout with NET(?) instead of SAE.

And John, you're already shouting LOOK AT ME in a big way with that apparatus sticking out your hood!:burnout:
 
TooManyFords said:
Maybe the word *fail* was a bit strong. I still say without standardization it is nothing more than another LOOK AT ME thread.
:P

With that in mind...



LOOK AT ME!


LOL!
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I did, and you are still ugly, but you have a great car. :)
P.S. I am not much better


Joe Walsh said:
The thread does serve its' intent to have a centralized listing of variously modded N/A Marauders and their accompanying dyno numbers.
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That's assuming all things are equal and they are not. Don't make me explain.

FordNut said:
And John, you're already shouting LOOK AT ME in a big way with that apparatus sticking out your hood!:burnout:
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Answer: The apparatus is there to deflect attention away from his overwhelming looks. :lol: I need a better blower also. John could be on to something. It's now clear why Martyo doesn't drive is own car.
 
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