Turbocharged Coyote/6R80 Swap, Build/Discussion Thread, Pics, info inside!

And for that I am very appreciative. The thing is butter smooth up to 140. It's pricy, but worth it.
 
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chief455 said:
Alan - Congrats! your Marauder is CVN 'Panther Of The Month!

http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php


deservedly so :bows:
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Thank you! And thank you to all that voted for me! It's something I had hoped to receive the honor of ever since I've owned a Panther back with the Vic, so it's a great moment indeed!

The 'ole girl did her last car show for the year last weekend:

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Now it's on to a little down time, then we start on the turbo kit fabrication. I'm assuming by my rough time frame that around mid/late December I will get under way.

Making some dragstrip passes this evening, with the cool October air coming in, our corrected Density Altitude here usually drops below our 1800 ft actual altitude and makes for some good run times.

I'm hoping for mid 13's at 104-105 at the end of the evening. I would be happy to end out the N/A portion of this setup with that. I will post the results later this evening with some video.
 
Well the final race of the year yielded a good time! I ended out running 13.70-13.75 all evening. MPH stayed the same at 103, however the 60' was in the 2.1's all evening, which I was happy with.

The tune was kept the same as last time, as I believe it's about as optimal as I can get it. Timing is 26 degrees and WOT lambda is .830. I am using the stock Mustang VCT cam timing still as well. Last time out, I experimented with some different VCT tables some friends were so kind as to provide, however it did not seem to change my E/T or MPH any, and all combos react different so that's probably a lot of it with me having a lower compression truck motor.

I'm pleased with the results, and so ends the N/A portion of this build. I plan to get to work around early December on the turbo setup. Going to take the time to start that swap thread and compile all the pictures and video over the next couple of months as well.

:burnout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DfQwS7FnPc
 
You should be getting paid as a professional R&D tech builder and writer. Awesome, excellently written thread, and can't wait for your summary to be a sticky thread for future swaps.
This is how you do it! :beer:
 
I think VCT is awesome. To be able to tune for just the sound of Lopey cams is amazing.

God I miss my cams!


Builder Of Badassery
 
Like all 3.55 N/A Marauders....she's a dog outta the hole...
but man does she sound sweet once that Coyote is wound up!!.....:bows:


Looking forward to your sick turbo build.
You won't need a lot of gear with the turbo's awesome torque.
 
96gt4.6 said:
Well the final race of the year yielded a good time! I ended out running 13.70-13.75 all evening. MPH stayed the same at 103, however the 60' was in the 2.1's all evening, which I was happy with.

The tune was kept the same as last time, as I believe it's about as optimal as I can get it. Timing is 26 degrees and WOT lambda is .830. I am using the stock Mustang VCT cam timing still as well. Last time out, I experimented with some different VCT tables some friends were so kind as to provide, however it did not seem to change my E/T or MPH any, and all combos react different so that's probably a lot of it with me having a lower compression truck motor.

I'm pleased with the results, and so ends the N/A portion of this build. I plan to get to work around early December on the turbo setup. Going to take the time to start that swap thread and compile all the pictures and video over the next couple of months as well.

:burnout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DfQwS7FnPc
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Alan, very impressive! 13.7 for a car as heavy as the Marauder is from basically a stock power plant is remarkable.
 
chief455 said:
You should be getting paid as a professional R&D tech builder and writer. Awesome, excellently written thread, and can't wait for your summary to be a sticky thread for future swaps.
This is how you do it! :beer:
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Haha, if only I could land a job to where this is all I do and make the same or better living, that would be a dream come true! Thanks!

justbob said:
I think VCT is awesome. To be able to tune for just the sound of Lopey cams is amazing.

God I miss my cams!


Builder Of Badassery
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I agree, NOTHING beats a nice choppity choppity chop idle! I have the tables for the fabled 'ghost cam' tune for the 5.0L, but have yet to mess with it, as it literally just adds a nasty idle. I figured if it idiled like that, people would then ask why it runs like a stock setup but has cams...haha.

Joe Walsh said:
Like all 3.55 N/A Marauders....she's a dog outta the hole...
but man does she sound sweet once that Coyote is wound up!!.....:bows:


Looking forward to your sick turbo build.
You won't need a lot of gear with the turbo's awesome torque.
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Thank you! And I agree, if this was staying N/A, a nice stall and set of 4.10's would be a HUGE compliment, and probably get her into the 12's. I'm anticipating the 3.55's or possibly some 3.27's will be in order after the turbo setup. I had 3.27's in the Vic, and it seemed to be just about right, but we shall see!

walt460 said:
Has there been any news on turning the 2011-2014 PATS system off?
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Walt, i'm shipping the computer back out to Eric today. He had requested it a few weeks ago, but I wanted to get to some car shows and finish out this last race before I disabled the car. We'll know next week if he can get it done this time. He claims, that he has done a few at this point and it is successful.

Fastbob said:
Alan, very impressive! 13.7 for a car as heavy as the Marauder is from basically a stock power plant is remarkable.
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Thank you! I'm very pleased with the outcome thus far as well!

MMBLUE said:
BRAVO. Excellent. I love the sound of the coyote vs the 4.6. Nicely done Sir.
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Thank you sir! Looking forward to moving onto the next portion of this build!
 
Alan, I have another contact that claims Eric was able to remove pats from his 2012 PCM, so I expect he will be successful with yours this time. This ability is not built into HP's tuning software yet, but most likely will be added soon. It should open up a lot more applications of the 5.0L Coyote with the 6R80.
 
walt460 said:
Alan, I have another contact that claims Eric was able to remove pats from his 2012 PCM, so I expect he will be successful with yours this time. This ability is not built into HP's tuning software yet, but most likely will be added soon. It should open up a lot more applications of the 5.0L Coyote with the 6R80.
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Thanks for the update Walt!

Mine is scheduled to be in Eric's hands by Friday according to the tracking number. He said 2 day turn around, so I'm hoping to have it back in a week or two at this point.

Once they get the bypass procedure integrated into the VCM scanner, they will have gold for the Coyote guys indeed!
 
96gt4.6 said:
Well the final race of the year yielded a good time! I ended out running 13.70-13.75 all evening. MPH stayed the same at 103, however the 60' was in the 2.1's all evening, which I was happy with.
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Great Job, nice results. I feel good about my time of 13.8@99 N/A with the stock MM engine. Thought you'd be lower for sure. Your MPH of 103 shows more HP than I have now for sure... The big tell will be with the turbos, and custom dyno tune. I'm guessing 11.5..

Sweet project results!
 
babbage said:
Great Job, nice results. I feel good about my time of 13.8@99 N/A with the stock MM engine. Thought you'd be lower for sure. Your MPH of 103 shows more HP than I have now for sure... The big tell will be with the turbos, and custom dyno tune. I'm guessing 11.5..

Sweet project results!
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It is nice to see some of the stock Marauder numbers vs. the Coyote, it helps assess the swap for those that might be considering it vs. playing with the stock motor.

Might I ask, what was the altitude above sea level, or perhaps the name of the drag strip you ran at? This will allow us to compare on the same scale, and take the altitude offset out of the equation.
 
Zack said:
If he goes 11.5 with a Coyote and twin turbos he should burn the car to the ground
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I'd keep your marsh mellows handy Zach!

I'm not looking to set the world on fire with the turbo right out of the gate. In all honesty, if this thing can out trap my turbo Chevy Crown Vic project, I'll be perfectly happy! It ran 123 mph through the traps on 14 psi and 50/50 pump 91/VP100 in the tank. Conservative at 10 degrees timing and 11.0 AFR.

I'm not really into setting records, my budget and simply having to repair broken parts isn't something I really prefer to do.

But, it may surprise even myself when completed!
 
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