Turbocharged Coyote/6R80 Swap, Build/Discussion Thread, Pics, info inside!

Carried over from crownvic.net, I'm too lazy to re-type it all!

Honestly though, I was in no way disappointed with it by any means. Corrected to sea level, that's a 13.49@105.35.

NHRA correction factors for my track: http://www.nhra.com/competition/altitude.aspx

The Vic in the video that shows the factory cluster working, has a Ford Racing Control Pack, true Mustang engine, and is around 500 lbs lighter than me, and had a trap speed of 104. Out of courtesy, I won't post his slip, that's not my place. His is a T-45 equipped unit.

Considering every Mustang GT I've seen run at our strip, is a mid 13 sec car in auto form (all stock), i'm right where I should be for my weight (4400 lbs with driver), Engine (F150 10.5:1 CR, Mustang Intake Cams), and completely stock, full Marauder exhaust including mufflers (which is true dual 2" vs. the factory Coyote true dual 2.25"). Initially, I had thought about giving it a shot and doing up the exhaust right, deeper gear and better stall to really give the Coyote justice in N/A form, but with jumping right into the turbo build here shortly, that would have been time and money wasted so there is no point.

Unfortunately, people only focus on the end results no matter the details that can alter them. It is what it is in stock form, and i'm in no way disappointed given the listed mods and weight. That's a substantial gain over the stock 4v.

Boost is coming, and at that time we can place our bets as that's the end goal here. One game changer for this setup vs my Turbo Chevy vic will be that, the stock 6R80 can have a trans brake with 3 simple relays and some tune work as demonstrated here (thanks for the heads up on this Cameronvic!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atma-QGHbGA

It's only the beginning, there is more to come guys.

It is what it is guys, I offer no excuses, and don't feel as if I'm out of the realm of where I need to be given the circumstances and my location.

It's all good, not going for the fastest here, I don't have the budget, skill or time for such things.

That being said, let the roasting continue :P
 
Carried over from crownvic.net, I'm too lazy to re-type it all!



It is what it is guys, I offer no excuses, and don't feel as if I'm out of the realm of where I need to be given the circumstances and my location.

It's all good, not going for the fastest here, I don't have the budget, skill or time for such things.

That being said, let the roasting continue :P


I agree with you , i could care less about a time slip! My goal was over 700 at the wheels, and excellent driveabilty.
 
It is nice to see some of the stock Marauder numbers vs. the Coyote, it helps assess the swap for those that might be considering it vs. playing with the stock motor.

Might I ask, what was the altitude above sea level, or perhaps the name of the drag strip you ran at? This will allow us to compare on the same scale, and take the altitude offset out of the equation.

600FT - Lebanon Valley Drags. The MM engine is stock, but I have (everything else N/A) LT, CAI, Exhaust, ported lower, tbody, underdrives, gears (3.73) - Torque converter, dyno tuned. Still yours is very impressive for using the stock f150 ecu... 12s N/A easy with a TC and Dyno Tune.
 
I agree with you , i could care less about a time slip! My goal was over 700 at the wheels, and excellent driveabilty.

Driveability, and full integration are paramount on any build, to me as well. Hopefully, I can get a respectable ET out of the 'ole girl on boost, but most certainly am not looking for a 'record breaker'. My old vic trapped 123, which is a 10 sec capable MPH easily, yet ran 12.0. Not ideally setup for drag racing, as she was slow out of the gate, but the car was more ideal for street use, as you trapped that of a 10 sec car, but could launch on the street as you had the 60' of a 12 second car. The goals, are similar for this build, but only time will tell where it goes.

600FT - Lebanon Valley Drags. The MM engine is stock, but I have (everything else N/A) LT, CAI, Exhaust, ported lower, tbody, underdrives, gears (3.73) - Torque converter, dyno tuned. Still yours is very impressive for using the stock f150 ecu... 12s N/A easy with a TC and Dyno Tune.

Looks like the 4v responds to mods decently. Correcting my bone stock Marauder 4v run down to your altitude, comes up with:

15.27@92.30

This is also assuming the corrected altitude was equal to your actual altitude at the time of the run, and not actually lower or below sea level. We sometimes get that here and experience 'hail mary' runs, with one evening producing an 800 ft corrected D/A, unfortunately we haven't seen those in a while.

That puts a setup with your mods at 6.7 MPH and 1.47 seconds the quicker. Do you have a stock time slip at the same drag strip before your mods? You can see how the stall in your combo really sucks the E/T down where it should be for your MPH. High 13's usually takes mid/high 90's trap speed.

I really would love to put a stall in this car, get the factory Marauder exhaust replaced with something more suiting (for that matter something that is AT LEAST the same size as the stock Coyote exhaust diameter), and get the stock mufflers out of the picture just to see how she does.

But, that's literally money wasted with the entire exhaust getting re done here shortly.

To hit the 103 MPH on 4400lbs, it need to be in the realm of 380 RWHP. Most Auto Mustang's I see with tune/exhaust are getting around 400 RWHP on the Coyote. Given my .5 lower compression ratio, and smaller stock exhaust (2" vs. 2.5"), I agree, the numbers don't look that bad.

It's simply the stigma of people comparing the end result which is the E/T ran at altitude, with E/T's ran at sea level, or on vehicles that are more setup for their purpose (N/A V. Forced Induction).

None the less, it's nice to see what the older 4v can do! It just simply wasn't right for me as an end product, as most everyone here said the stock 4v.....gets weak around 500 HP. With everything done proper, we should be able to get around 7-800 flywheel out of the Coyote in stock form.
 
No need to defend yourself.....ya gotta love the 2V CV wankers talking trash about how slow your bone stock Coyote runs!

Yeah....If you pour money into a 2V it'll run quick enough....until the stock motor blows up.
Then you can start spending more money on a stout forged short block and ported 2V heads and a new intake manifold and .... :blah: .... :blah: .... :blah:

Almost all bone stock Marauders ran low to mid 15s .... a few rare exceptions ran high 14s.
You are 1+ second quicker already with a bone stock Coyote 5.0L.

As you said:
The stock Coyote will eat boost all day and live on for much more fun!

Can't wait for you to hang a set of hair dryers on that Coyote!!!
 
Again awesome project. I think if you added a better torque converter it'd be 12's n/a easy..

But, cant wait for the turbos, do you have a mock up of what you want it to look like - Did you see Senecas thread?
 
Thank you sir, and apologies if I came off a little rough there.....sometimes it's hard for me to switch mindsets from Forum to Forum.....

I don't believe I've seen that particular thread! I will take a peek, any ideas are helpful.

The plans at this time are the same as I did on my Vic, this video will give some illustration to that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA4_nimv50s
 
Building a twin turbo kit in a Marauder engine bay is ridiculously difficult.
Do what Seneca Did
 
Building a twin turbo kit in a Marauder engine bay is ridiculously difficult.
Do what Seneca Did

I agree. With all the A/C equipment on the passenger side, it would be a complete headache to say the least. I've never really contemplated twins on this build....have always been pretty much set on a single setup. The kit will be the same as my Vic was, as show in this video here, as well as the link in my last post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHznW9ORGNM


Thanks for the link. I will take a look, and see what if any changes to my current design layout I will make.
 
Temp/Humidity can add .75 seconds from fastest to slowest.

The benefit of running at the track is a wide open run from a stop in a controlled environment while being measured with a consistent clock.
 
this thread must be highest read on site.
I would love, and fully expect, this to pioneer to a swap kit down the road.
A 2015 435fhp take out from a Mustang should be tried soon.....
good job you ground breakers! :beer:

We are over 1/2 way to the Eaton Swap Thread views at this point, and being as this site is the home for this car/build, every external link I post comes to this thread, not to mention we got major attention thanks to the StangTV article and link!
 

Thanks for the validation! Great to know Eric really can do it, many others have failed.

I was at SEMA this week and confirmed with another buddy that Eric has done his Mustang Manual Trans PCM successfully.

Also at SEMA, Hotwire has a wiring harness in the New Product Display, display case #544, that is for the Coyote with the 6R80. It replaces the engine harness and the trans harness and gives you all the connections you need to make the 5.0L/6R80 run in any car. I really like that they provided for the PCM to still run the Fuel Pump and cooling fans. They will custom make this harness to match your vehicle layout (wire lengths), and the price is about $1100.

With HP Tuners now being able to turn PATS off, and wiring harnesses from Hotwire, we should see a boom in Coyote/6R80 installs!

Walt
 
Awesome! Thanks for the heads up Walt!

Indeed, it doesn't seem long and the 6R80 will be common place in swaps, as well as being able to use salvage pullouts!

I was finally able to get the other Coyote swapped Vic down for some work this weekend, that was a pretty cool car! He's really tidied up the swap, and the grainy video that's on YouTube does it no justice. The car in clean inside, and all put back together. It's actually not a bad setup, and the installation is pretty good. he made the 5 speed look like it belongs in there!

Here's the video demonstrating my integration with the stock '06 CAN Network Vic cluster to the Coyote ecu. Full functionality!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8pKKDKYBjk

two Coyote's, same chassis. Crazy how close we live to each other:

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Just curious, how much did a paint job like that cost you? Its a very beautiful job

Thank you.

I believe, supplies and all was just under 2k, but i'd have to review my build sheet.

Of course that's with all labor completely free.
 
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